OKOK got into a steroid argument

[ausmanalot]

Please tell me what is correct to do and why



if someone is to cycle of test 700 mg per week... for 12 weeks.. what is the disadvantage or advantage of keeping it at 700 mg per week for the entire cycle or to slowly drop the dose and start pct


so week 1 to 9 700 mg per week then 9 to 12... 500 mg 300mg 100mg


To me i said 700 mg week 1 to 12 and just have a good pct...

BUT

is there any advantage of droping it down slowly im talking any at all

[peachfuzz]

tapering would be a waste of weeks 9-12. it provides no benefit other than maybe alittle quicker clearance time allowing you to start pct sooner after last inject. dont know why youd want that tho? 700mg 1-12 is the way to go.

[Amorphic]

agreed. tapering is useless. some say it helps with the post cycle crash but thats a myth.

hcg or proviron during pct helps avoid the crash just fine.

[ausmanalot]

why... i need know 100% to tell this guy

so cutting the dose down does nothing to recover quickly because no matter how much the dose it ur still gonna be shut down because ur giving urself another source of test blah blah...

how ever...

any other reason to slowly come off??

... depression ... mentally... anyother reason at all to come off slowly??

[ausmanalot]

does is not it sorry...

[ausmanalot]

im talking about a longer estered product....

[Amorphic]

why... i need know 100% to tell this guy

so cutting the dose down does nothing to recover quickly because no matter how much the dose it ur still gonna be shut down because ur giving urself another source of test blah blah...

how ever...

any other reason to slowly come off??

... depression ... mentally... anyother reason at all to come off slowly??

if you're still injecting exogenous test at a low dose you will not recover quicker. your hpta will remain shut down. depression, erection problems, low libido can be solved with proviron like i said earlier and hcg in a solid pct.

[peachfuzz]

im talking about a longer estered product....

longer esters are self tapering.

[ausmanalot]

guys thank you

i just needed the reassurance... i know in my mind its correct once i think about the whole process

alot of bullshit on these forums and alot of good info too!!

[stpete]

agreed. tapering is useless. some say it helps with the post cycle crash but thats a myth.

hcg or proviron during pct helps avoid the crash just fine.

Agreed x 3. Makes no sense.

[magic32]

tapering would be a waste of weeks 9-12. it provides no benefit other than maybe alittle quicker clearance time allowing you to start pct sooner after last inject. dont know why youd want that tho? 700mg 1-12 is the way to go.

agreed. tapering is useless. some say it helps with the post cycle crash but thats a myth.

why... i need know 100% to tell this guy

so cutting the dose down does nothing to recover quickly because no matter how much the dose it ur still gonna be shut down because ur giving urself another source of test blah blah...

how ever...

any other reason to slowly come off??

... depression ... mentally... anyother reason at all to come off slowly??

NONE! FOR THE REASON YOU CITED ABOVE, WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION BEING VERY LONG TERM TAPERING DURING WHICH IF DOSES DROPPED LOW ENOUGH RECOVERY WOULD BEGIN.

I concur!

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longer esters are self tapering.

Okay, you lost me! Unless you're saying that upon discontinuation they metabolize (absorb, degrade, and are eliminated) to zero...which of course goes without saying for all drugs!

[peachfuzz]

Okay, you lost me! Unless you're saying that upon discontinuation they metabolize (absorb, degrade, and are eliminated) to zero...which of course goes without saying for all drugs!

thats what i meant. i said long esters to keep in context with the weekly tapering he was referring to.

[VWbug66]

so how much do you have down on the bet?? i assume ur betting him eh?

[football3355]

agreed. tapering is useless. some say it helps with the post cycle crash but thats a myth.

hcg or proviron during pct helps avoid the crash just fine.

but if say one wanted to use just proviron, is it not as beneficial or crash eliminating as HCG?

[Amorphic]

but if say one wanted to use just proviron, is it not as beneficial or crash eliminating as HCG?

hcg will do more to plump up your balls and get your lh and fsh working.

proviron helps with avoiding the sexual crash as well as stimulating lh if i remember correctly.