10 months into program hrt/hcg/hgh results

[biggunSC]

Hey guys here are the latest pics from the start 10 months ago till now check this out!!!!!!! start 205pds @ 26%bf now 210pds @ 16%bf. First pic when I started. The second pic 6 months in. And the 3rd,4th pic 10 months in.

Bench press 135pds 4 to 6 reps max at start, bench press 295pds 4 to 6 reps max 6 months in, bench press 335pds 4 reps, 360pds 2 rep max 10 months in. Unbelieveable strenght increasess.

I am so pumped and feel excellent so happy I started this program it has changed my life in all aspects social esteam and sexually.


Program:

HGH 0.1iu x 5 days off 2 days next 6 months 0.15iu x 5 days on, 2 days off
HCG 0.3iu x 3 days every two weeks
Test Enthanate 200mg/ml 2.0ml once every two weeks HCG started on the 11th, 12th, 13th days of each two week cycle.

Doctor supervised every 6 months full bloodwork etc...

First picture Aug 15 2007/ Second picture Jan 15 2008/ Third picture July 15 2008/ Fourth picture as Oct 8 2008

[Oki-Des]

Great change, congrats.

[TatMan]

Great progress!

[warchild]

good work, just started trt myself

[XNathan]

Great progress! Congratulation!

But 0.1IU of hGH will do nothink dont you mean 1IU???

[GTOne]

Congrats Biggin! Unbelievable progress. I just started TRT (2 1/2 weeks in). Curious, you mentioned in your first post you conitnued to eat a lot of "soul" food (like a mule I believe was your quote). What was the diet like this 6 months? Looks like you lost a few lbs, but looks like it was all fat. Did you up the cardio or what?

GT

[zaggahamma]

strength gains are what i find the most fantastic...on only 400mg test every 2 weeks....the hgh must be having a great synergetic effect

[GTOne]

Yeah, would love to know how much is attributable to the HGH. I think he said only 200mg of test every 2 weeks - wow

["Maximus"]

Congrats to you on your progress mate!

In my opininon, your bf percentage has gone down because you've been stacking the hcg/test along with your hgh+cardio/training regime -which of course is a must... I've been taking 3IUs hgh for the past 6 weeks, and went down from 16% bf to 14% bf in 4 weeks. I measured myself, yesterday again, using a magnetic-like resonace imaging equipment for body fat/lbm compositioning and I came at 12.3% bf... What it is impresive, at least to me, is that I'm trying to incorporate a diet (as my dieting habits sucks right this moment -- I'm not eating timely as I'm supposed to, 6 meals a day) and I've been out of the gym for at least 4 weeks now, until I fix my diet.

I'm sorry mate for hijacking your thread a bit about my case, but the point is great job for your progress this far and keep doing what you're doing... at least it seems in your case, that .1IU?? is working great so far along with your cycle stack.

Max

[zaggahamma]

Yeah, would love to know how much is attributable to the HGH. I think he said only 200mg of test every 2 weeks - wow

i think he said 200mg is the strength per ml but he states he takes 2.0 ml which = 400mg...to set the record straight

[Coach 44]

Incredible strength gains bro! I would agree that stacking the hgh is working miracles for you in a short period of time. It's apparent from your pics that you've been busting your tail in the gym. Great job bro! It sucks for me that although I'm only three months in, my abs still look like your first pic Keep us posted.

[GTOne]

gotcha - stand corrected...

[chellis]

how expensive is the treatment?

[biggunSC]

Hey guys alot of questions here's my answers:

1. HGH 0.10iu's x 5 days week 2 days off. Just moved up to 0.15iu's x 5 days etc.
2. Test 200mg per 1ml so 2ml would be 400mg once every two weeks.
3. HCG 0.30iu's for three days on the 10,11,12 day of the two week cycle keeps my natural test production, the doctor want my blood levels to fluctuate to keep my natural from shuting down completely. My free test which is the most inportant is staying on the high end scale 7-22 I'm at 17-19 on my bloodwork, That I think accounts for such strength gains.
4. Diet really I EAT EVERYTHING no change in diet over the past 11 months, just really starting to leanout, program is taking hold. I always believe you gotta eat to get big. I guess my muscle mass is gaining on on my fat mass therefore buring more fat. Look at the pro's when not competing they look like Jabba the Hut haha, I'm not interested in the weight swings and not competing!!! I do slam 42grams whey protein tube shots 4 times a day. And big protein shake after every workout.
5. Trainning well I DO NOT MESS AROUND when I hit the gym I hit it real hard, I train chest & tri's two days off, back & bi's two days off, shoulders, tri's & traps two days off, legs & bi's two days off, Ab's I change up days to hit them every other workout. No cardio, dry sauna only. 20 mins every training day @ 170 degrees.
6. Cost, up until this month my cost monthly averaged $375.00. Saizen more concentrated more mgs more expensive. $475.00 a month here forward. Got my one year Doctor visit bloodwork etc coming up first week in September. Will provide that info when I get it. Thanks Guys for all your support.

[zaggahamma]

Hey guys alot of questions here's my answers:

1. HGH 0.10iu's x 5 days week 2 days off. Just moved up to 0.15iu's x 5 days etc.
2. Test 200mg per 1ml so 2ml would be 400mg once every two weeks.
3. HCG 0.30iu's for three days on the 10,11,12 day of the two week cycle keeps my natural test production, the doctor want my blood levels to fluctuate to keep my natural from shuting down completely. My free test which is the most inportant is staying on the high end scale 7-22 I'm at 17-19 on my bloodwork, That I think accounts for such strength gains.
4. Diet really I EAT EVERYTHING no change in diet over the past 11 months, just really starting to leanout, program is taking hold. I always believe you gotta eat to get big. I guess my muscle mass is gaining on on my fat mass therefore buring more fat. Look at the pro's when not competing they look like Jabba the Hut haha, I'm not interested in the weight swings and not competing!!! I do slam 42grams whey protein tube shots 4 times a day. And big protein shake after every workout.
5. Trainning well I DO NOT MESS AROUND when I hit the gym I hit it real hard, I train chest & tri's two days off, back & bi's two days off, shoulders, tri's & traps two days off, legs & bi's two days off, Ab's I change up days to hit them every other workout. No cardio, dry sauna only. 20 mins every training day @ 170 degrees.
6. Cost, up until this month my cost monthly averaged $375.00. Saizen more concentrated more mgs more expensive. $475.00 a month here forward. Got my one year Doctor visit bloodwork etc coming up first week in September. Will provide that info when I get it. Thanks Guys for all your support.

worth every penny...wish you continued success bro

[Silver-Bolt]

Your HGH number are not right. .10iu and now .15iu's? Are you sure that is not 1.0 or even 10iu's?

[Dr_BruceBanner]

BiggunSC, congrats man you really look great and are doing everything you need to do in order to get results. Great job man. Your strength levels really blew up too.

What part of SC are you from. I had a condo at North Myrtle Beach for years. I live in NC myself now.

Congrats again and keep it up. You're an inspiration to me and a lot of other guys now.

[biggunSC]

After one year my doc just changed everything on me this last visit 1 yr checkup on the trt/hgh as of Sept 1 2008. It is now Oct 9 and what difference! He had me on the previously posted doses for the first year and now has moved me to the following:

1/2cc test once a week.
10k hcg bottle diluted w/5ml bacteriostactic water at .25 units on 5th and 6th day im each week. (bottle will last several months)
hgh 1iu subQ 6 days a week.
25mg every other day arimidex. (not much needed)
dhea 50mg per day.

I responded on the second half of the year really well, but he had some concern with the elevations in some of the blood test results which were:

estradiol 15pg/nl scale 0-5
free test 38.1pg/nl scale 4.6-21.5
total test 839pg/nl scale 175-781
igf-1 419pg/nl scale 101-167

He also had me donate blood because hgh and high test levels builds red blood cells and puts to much blood in your system which increases blood pressure and could cause stroke. Now with that said the change up in my libido is now off the chart and nads are full and willing! The donation of blood really made a big difference, I feel less pressure that I did not know I had until I did it and will need to do every six months that I'm on this program. I notice a major difference in the lose of bodyfat now and my strength is still there at the maximum. Latest picture attached.

[biggunSC]

Your HGH number are not right. .10iu and now .15iu's? Are you sure that is not 1.0 or even 10iu's?

The unit scale on a insulin needle 0 to 100 units at .05 .10 .15 .20 .25 .30 etc. up to 100.

[GottaGetIt]

Excellent

[smittyinafghan]

Thats an awesome transformation. Im in NC as well and would love to link up with your doctor for the same dedication. Keep up the great work.

[lovbyts]

looks great, sound exactly like what I am going to do. I am using the same amount of HGH for about the same length and have done 1 cycle of Test E, doctor had me on Androgel but now I'm starting 200mg every 2 week of Test E per script but I'm thinking of just saving up for a couple months and doing a real cycle??

If you add in some cardio and fix your diet you will see a lot better results.

[zaggahamma]

looks great, sound exactly like what I am going to do. I am using the same amount of HGH for about the same length and have done 1 cycle of Test E, doctor had me on Androgel but now I'm starting 200mg every 2 week of Test E per script but I'm thinking of just saving up for a couple months and doing a real cycle??

If you add in some cardio and fix your diet you will see a lot better results.

lovbyts...so you're talking about an all test cycle? like what? 400mg/500mg EW?
cuz i ramped up my TRT to 400 for 6 weeks and saw no real difference...i'm wondering what ppl on trt's experience with these test only cycles...have you done a little all test cycle since starting TRT?

[lovbyts]

I started the TRT about 9 months ago, that is how I got the HGH. I was given Androgel of course but it did nothing and after a couple months bumped up to Androgel 2x a day. At that point I decided to do my first cycle using 500mg EW (250mg 2x week) still using the HGH also and PCT of Nolva. I finished the cycle a little over a month ago.

I did a blood workup less than 2 weeks after finishing my cycle and was using the Nolva and my blood work showed test level around 650 where before it was 240 so the doc thought the androgel was working. I called doc and told him I had supplemented myself due to now felling anything with androgel so he bumped me up to Test E 300 mg every 2 weeks. I know I said it was 200 mg but my mistake, it's 300. Still I'm thinking about stacking/saving it for cycle. I had no problem with my last one.

[binder]

great results!

are you sure you don't mean 10 units? there are 100 units in an insulin syringe so if you go to the 10 that is 10 IU's, not 0.10. It would be 0.10 mL though because insulin syringes are 1mL

[lovbyts]

I'm sure he means 1 iu or .10 ml since the normal daily dose is 1 iu a day

[binder]

I'm sure he means 1 iu or .10 ml since the normal daily dose is 1 iu a day

ya, i was thinking 0.10 mL sounds right. I understood what he meant, i just wanted to clear it up since a few people had asked.