idk if you guys know who he is but he's a steroid guru. but any ways for a first timer who wants minimal sides he recomends two short cycles both six weeks long. for the first one he recomends dece and primo i dont remember the doses, then for the next cycle he says to take anavar and winny for another six weeks. along with these he recomends propecia everyday i think and he says theres no pct needed. any of you guys have anything to say about that???im not going to do this cycle but i know he knows what he's talking about.