now i know this forum is mainly for discussing, more potent compounds than ph's, but would like some feedback. has anyone used or know any information about kilo sports trenadrol or ACL tren extreme. alot of people say trenadrol is more potent but comes with alot more sides and gyno possibilities. i know alot of you might say just run real gear, and i would if i had a source to get it from, but i don't so i guess i can't. any help would be appreciated on these compunds.