1AD 4AD PH cycle

[Captainbicep]

Well, this is my first post, so Ill give a little info about myself. Ive been lifting for about 5 years now, 1 year of proper diet along with lifting. I was thinking about doing a ph cycle since I dont want to stick myself with a needle or take any hardcore orals like dbol or winn.

I was also thinking about ergopharms new 1AD with a 60X0 pct. Does anyone have any experience with this?

Also, I was wondering where I could get some 1 or 4AD, and a post like nolva.

[semperbear]

look where did you get your 1ad and 4ad are you sure there legit? second off 1ad and 4ad will bind together and produced massive gains, how much protein a day are you consuming? the new 1ad not so good nothing will replace there original!

[jc95605]

Haven't really been into prohormones in awhile but didn't they ban alot of crap about a month or so ago? I dunno you guys might know more about it but now i'm curious. I know the old 1AD and 4AD were some pretty good stuff. I also heard that hdrol with propadrol was a good stack.

[Captainbicep]

Im just in maintainance right now. Im consuming 6 "meals" a day. About 3000 calories, and around 250g protein.

I havnt actually bought anything yet. Its realy hard to find. I have even asked "street pharmacists" if they could get me any and they just ask if I wanted some weed instead...

if i cant get the orig. i might just go for the ergopharms...but Ill search for a few more months.

[GT2]

Im just in maintainance right now. Im consuming 6 "meals" a day. About 3000 calories, and around 250g protein.

I havnt actually bought anything yet. Its realy hard to find. I have even asked "street pharmacists" if they could get me any and they just ask if I wanted some weed instead...

if i cant get the orig. i might just go for the ergopharms...but Ill search for a few more months.

Sif you'd waste your time and more importantly MONEY with prohormones?
PH cycles still require PCTs and it won't be cheap. Save your money and when you're ready (training, diet, experience, everything in check), do a proper AAS cycle. Just my .02

[Captainbicep]

I know that the PH cycle would be expensive, and Im ready to spend $300+ on a cycle. I havnt researched actual steroids as much as I have PH's, so Ill need to research again. And I think Ill wait a couple more years until Im 25 or so to actualy run a steroid cycle. Just for future reference: How would a dbol/winni cycle do and how much mg would I be taking a week?

[oneshot]

im not familiar with that ph but they can be as or more toxic then other steroids. not too many people around here are gonna condone a dbol and winni cycle for many reasons. i have a feeling you are afraid of needles. do a search and find out why oral only cycles are frowned upon

[Captainbicep]

I am actualy not afraid of needles at all when a doctor/nurse is injecting for me. I just cant get myself to stick myself with anything.
And i think I have an idea why oral only cycles are bad. But ill do some research.

[bbuilder]

I just cant get myself to stick myself with anything.

Have someone else do it. It's not a big deal.