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[tbonesteakboy]

Ok, Hi everybody. I posted in the New Male Members area not too long ago, but I noticed I was turning it into a Q&A, so I thought I'd post here.

I'm now about 175, 5'11" 10%BF. The last time I weighed in I was only 172. I'm gaining size without AAS, however I'd like to accelerate this process a bit. I've been working out pretty seriously for almost two years now, but I believe I've only been doing it correctly for a couple of months (using proper form, using proper workout methods). My diet is pretty firm. i'm able to choke down about 3000 cals of healthy food... but i plan to raise this to 4500 during a cycle.

This will be my first cycle and i want to absolutely ensure i have it correct. 12 week cycle of Test 400mgs every week, and Dbol 20mgs a day for 4-5 weeks. insert novaldex 10mg if/when gyno sides arise for 3 days.

Now to the real questions...

I read that arimidex would totally get rid of gyno sides, and increase anabolic DHT, but somebody said it wasn't necessary. maybe add it to my next cycle if all goes well with this?

and should i worry about a PCT at this dosage of test/dbol?

the articles i've read here said that maybe i shouldn't even bother with dbol my first cycle. is this a rule of thumb or should i just go for it?

[Dukkit]

I wouldnt bother with the D-Bol. Really I wouldnt bother doing a cycle. You can get more results still if your just now getting your workout right. But if your dead set on doing so...

then no d-bol

up the test to 500mg (type of test your going to use?)

dont bother with the arimidex. really shouldnt be needed on a test only cycle and neither should the nolva during cycle.

YES!!! you need to worry about a pct! nolva and clomid. look in the PCT forum and figure out the dosages. Least ya can do for your nuts

[tbonesteakboy]

yeah i'm still getting gains as is. i know i *should wait... heh

I'm asking for test cyp

ok, @500mgs i shouldn't worry about nolva? if i should happen to get gyno should i have it on hand anyway just in case?

PCT: wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED
Aromasin 25mg/ED

[Dukkit]

yeah i'm still getting gains as is. i know i *should wait... heh

I'm asking for test cyp

ok, @500mgs i shouldn't worry about nolva? if i should happen to get gyno should i have it on hand anyway just in case?

PCT: wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED
Aromasin 25mg/ED

yea always have your PCT and AI's on hand during cycle in case you get gyno or need to end the cycle early.

run your clomid at 50mg ED
nolva at 40mg ed for weeks 1 and 2.
and nolva at 20mg ed for week 3 and 4-5

you can run the nolva at 20mg a day and it does work. but i prefer to bump it up to 40 in the beginning to really get the balls back to work. it seems to work well for me. so whichever you prefer will work though

and you know to start your PCT like 14 days after your last injection????
well for Cyp it may be 16-18. i never remember all those time frames

[tbonesteakboy]

yeah i read it was 2 weeks. i'll dig around to see if cyp needs a longer wait.