d-bol, winnie?

[TORCHITUP!]

Decided to go with some dbol and winnie in the last few weeks of d-bol cycle. Also some multi-vitamins and milk thistle for the liver. Good combo or too much?

5'5" 155 12 or 13% bf? not too sure. good healthy diet, and workout every day.

[Freakish]

um do you mean you doing a dbol only cycle then you adding winstrol to it at the end?

[TORCHITUP!]

Yes. is there anything else out there that could work like winnie but is maybe less expensive?

[Big]

wow.
first, no price discussions.
second, that is a very poorly planned cycle.
how old are you?
exactly what is the cycle? (Amount and time)
what is your pct?

[Freakish]

wow.
first, no price discussions.
second, that is a very poorly planned cycle.
how old are you?
exactly what is the cycle? (Amount and time)
what is your pct?

yeah big i had a bad feeling about this one

[Dukkit]

hmm, we need more info and a d-bol/winny only cycle is a no go IMO

[WARMachine]

Youre 5'5 155lbs and 12%BF?

Damn dude, i was 14 and this size with like 6%BF.

Your diet is obviously a problem.


Give us these as well.

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[redz]

Terrible cycle you are beating on your liver doing that cycle!

[Dream27]

he must be reallly young... your better off injecting test rather than swallowing a bunch of d bol every day...

[TORCHITUP!]

wow.
first, no price discussions.
second, that is a very poorly planned cycle.
how old are you?
exactly what is the cycle? (Amount and time)
what is your pct?

First off my diets perfectly fine, and my bf is high because im pretty short. I figured with the water retention from the dbol, the winnie would help suck it out so i could tighten up. I want some gains as well tho as far as weight and strength go.
exp- 3 years lifting,
been doing cardio my entire life ( wrestling,mma,running etc.
20 yrs. old ( I know im young but as far age goes i dont care much about it. )
7 weeks dbol, 6 week winnie.

[Big]

very, very poor cycle. please reconsider, you will likely hurt yourself.

[TORCHITUP!]

Alright, you've convinced me lol. What would you think about test prop and a few weeks of winnie? Obviously because winnie is pill form its going to spark concern for the liver, but would you recommend that or something that stacks well with the test.?
From what I understand milk thistle will combat the toxins in the liver as well..
Open for all suggestions and thoughts.
Be easy on me guys Im just trying to figure out whats best for me and what better way than your experiences?

[Mulciber]

i use r-ala, tylers liver detox or liv52 and NAC..

you dont seem to want to know about your cycle or dont really give a shit what we have to offer so i wont bother commenting on your current cycle.

do you know why winny is hard on the liver..
*heres a clue*
its not because its pill form

as far as what stacks best with test.. well, anything.... depends on what you want
the steroid profiles will help you in that area but seem a little dated..

didnt answer the question about pct..what are the plans there?

[TORCHITUP!]

Well I did some reading up on PCT, and from what i read (Of course i could be completely wrong,) but from what i read HcG,Nolva combo..Although I have many concerns i need your guys help with. I'm worried about the Gyno problems, and Cholesterol problems that come along with these. As of now, sus and winnie are available to me, should i reconsider or will I be alright? And as for the prior post, I do give a shit what everybody has to say and i apologize if people took me for the wrong way. Thanks.. Please inform me about any PCT concerns you guys may have.