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coming off my 2nd shoulder seperation..but the 2nd one was a lot more mild then the first. looking to strengthen my muscles in my shoulder area to prevent another seperation. As a hockey player I need the speed, explosiveness and quickness as well as just strength.
At first i was thinking winny but i learned that its not good for your joints which i dont think would help my shoulder ligaments that much. What do you guys think about anavar?
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var is perfect for ur goals.
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i was thinking 40mg ED for 4-5 weeks.
With that do i need to do any nolva or clomid for PCT?
How is var for quickness and more importantly stamina? And var wont negativley effect my shoulder seperation will it?
Last edited by idizzle; 09-17-2008 at 11:28 PM.
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I dont know a thing about hockey so i neglected to post anything here.
But yes, you need nolva and clomid just t be safe.
40MG of Var is hardly worth it.
Run something like this...
Week 1-6: Anavar 60-80mg ED (Start low, and increase.)
Week 7-9: Nolva 25mg ED
Week 7-8: Clomid 25mg ED
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I ran Test through 12 weeks of my last season and my point output went way up through that time. I scored twice as much and was way faster, harder shot etc. I would suggest a Test cycle over anavar.
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i disagree, 40mg var is fine for his goals (assuming its LEGIT var). You dont wanna take 2 much because you'll cramp up/2 much pump. Plus the toxicity is lower so u can do it for longer periods of time which is wat you'd want for sports.Originally Posted by war4BTT
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Yeah but taking Var over 6 weeks is a waste of money better spent on a full cycle? If you want to run longer cycles then inject test.
Running Var for more than 6 weeks is pointless. Its not worth the $ it costs. The point of a Var only cycle is to do a very short, mild cycle. Var only cycles are to be used a bridges between cycles. Its just pointless otherwise IMO.
What do you mean youll cramp? Ive run Var at 100mg and had no problems with cramps?
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bro, no offense but i dont think you understand how an athlete is supposed to cycle steroids.
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http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323535
i made a post asking about criticism on avavar
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can somebody give me like an estimate of anavar ? i hear how expensive for 6 weeks it is, im serious to what that number is
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Does var make you quicker or increase/decrease your endurance at all?
And how will the var affect my seperated shoulder?
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What do you base this off of?
Do i know how a hockey player is supposed to run a cycle? No, not really, but i know how to run a anavar bridge cycle.
I am a professional athlete as a matter of fact dude, are you?
See for yourself:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=353988
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this post you made over here:
Um, yeah...the ignorance of you're post speaks for itself. I just hope some poor jock doesnt listen to this advice and go off running var at 100mg. But honestly, if you're a professional athlete, thats great!
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Did i advise anyone to run Var @100mgs?
I dont think so...
Why dont you try actually reading what i wrote before making moronic comments like i dont know what im talking about.
I advised anywhere from 60-80mgs.
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Which by itself would be a good dose......I advised anywhere from 60-80mgs.
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Exactly Redz!
I dont know what Baron's problem is, but i never advised 100mgs of Var.
As a matter of fact, me doing that way probably not the best idea.
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lol you just dont get it do you? The "advice" i was refering was basically everything you said. And athletes cramp up at even 30mg of var a day.Did i advise anyone to run Var @100mgs?
I dont think so...
Why dont you try actually reading what i wrote before making moronic comments like i dont know what im talking about.
I advised anywhere from 60-80mgs.
I dunno maybe the stuff you're using is fake?
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yeah for a bodybuilder.....
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No.....not quite, anavar is very mild compared to other steroids.yeah for a bodybuilder.....
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No you said listen to my advice and use 100mg ED. WHICH I DID NOT ADVISE!
And no, my gear was not fake. And no i didnt cramp.(anymore than usual while on a cycle)
You obviously dont know what youre talking about. 60mgs is not for a bodybulider. 60mgs is for anyone looking to gain from taking it.
100mgs is what a bodybuilder would take. Which is why ill never do that gain.
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yes....quite, anavar is infact a ANABOLIC STEROID and can have very pronounced anabolic effects. Despite all the bunk misinformation constantly floating around here about how weak var is, it simply isnt true. Also, as an athlete OP is looking for something mild, 2 much juice will ruin performance/training. Any experienced athlete can attest to this. Oh, i'm sorie...notable exceptions: mister crazy juicing ultimate fighter guy!
Then again, this isnt exactly the best place in the world to receive proper training/cycle advice for an athlete, this ignorance doesnt really surprise me.
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I PLAY HOCKEY!!!!2 much juice will ruin performance/training. Any experienced athlete can attest to this. Oh, i'm sorie...notable exceptions: mister crazy juicing ultimate fighter guy!
I was on 600mg/week test e and winstrol and my performance went way up 60mg is not a huge dose of var!
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wow, thank you for proving my point.
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He called me a ultimate fighter guy...
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WTF...you dont even make sense.wow, thank you for proving my point.
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Both of you are a little to slow for me to argue with. Why dont you make ur way back to "the post whore thread", and waste some more forum CPU with inane banter.
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Dude youre a football player?!
How do you suddenly know so much about hockey?
http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=5144390
....how many cycles have you done?
Have you done Var?
Test?
Drol?
Dbol?
Tren?
Winny?
cause i have...
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I dont post there but thanks.... heres you....Both of you are a little to slow for me to argue with. Why dont you make ur way back to "the post whore thread".
Then I say.....I play hockey and juice with test/winstrol etc. and that proves your point how? No part of my training or game got worse everything was better skating speed, checking, shot speed, puck handling....... 40mg ed is a waste of var!yes....quite, anavar is infact a ANABOLIC STEROID and can have very pronounced anabolic effects. Despite all the bunk misinformation constantly floating around here about how weak var is, it simply isnt true. Also, as an athlete OP is looking for something mild, 2 much juice will ruin performance/training. Any experienced athlete can attest to this. Oh, i'm sorie...notable exceptions: mister crazy juicing ultimate fighter guy!
Then again, this isnt exactly the best place in the world to receive proper training/cycle advice for an athlete, this ignorance doesnt really surprise me.
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My girlfriend plays hockey for a pretty big team, and i'm a personal trainer atm.
lol, now we go down the list of drugs we've used? This is why they tell kids not to do steroids.
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So youre a personal trainer?
Dude 50% of the guys on here are personal trainers. That doesnt mean you know a thing about AAS.
And youre GF plays hockey? Ok?
Does she do AAS? Has she taken Var?
Female doses of Var are 2-10mgs
Men are 60-80mg.
Big difference.
Your lack of knowledge is apparent...
Im done wasting my time arguing with you. You dont kno what youre talking about.
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I pray to god no1 takes you seriously, for ther own sake.
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Whoops i messed that one up...
i meant 2-10mgs...
Sorry that was a total screw up on my part....
Although i do know women who take 20mgs while on a serious cycle.
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lol..thanks for all the advice..but i only have a couple more things before i go get the var that i really need answered.
Does var make you quicker or increase/decrease your endurance at all?
And how will the var affect my seperated shoulder joint? Stengthen it or weaken it?
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Well thats part of the problem. Var will infact decrease you're endurance. As an athlete you haveto be aware of every potential side effect as it is possible for it to significantly interfere with training. Yes, you will become stronger and "quicker".
I think anavar would help with you're injury. Var increases collagen synthesis and is notorious for treating injuries like muscle strains/pulls in athletes. However i dont know the extent of you're injury and am not a medical doctor. I think you're best bet would be to get examined and ask someone more qualified. However - what i do know is a good dose of HGH would be right up you're ally.
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bad for endurance? hmmm
If i was to go with 50 mg ED of winny for a 4-5 weeks then how would that effect my endurance? and my shoulder?
Or what about 50mg EOD?
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winny has to be taken ed. Also I dont think it sthe best to take iwth an existing injury. I am tellign you test alone is better and I cant tell you one bad thing it did to me during the season but its your choice.
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no.
Test = more injuries. Test actually decreases collagen synthesis, especially in doses these guys recommend. Its jsut gonna give you more injuries. Think about it, test strengthens the muscle and weakens the connective tissue. This is NOT what you want in this situation. Maybe you can do a low dose later on when you're shoulder fully heals, but you haveto make sure you take it with something like EQ/hgh/var.
Leave the winny out too, just take the var @ 30mg ED for longer and you're endurance should be fine. Note the effects, and if you feel you can handle it do a little more in the weeks following.
Last edited by Baron; 09-20-2008 at 01:38 PM.
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Wow you are a moron I adivised him that test only was better than winny eod and you say no? you lost your credibility buddy.winny has to be taken ed. Also I dont think it sthe best to take iwth an existing injury. I am tellign you test alone is better and I cant tell you one bad thing it did to me during the season but its your choice.
no.
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test only = stupid
winny = stupid
you = stupid
i dunno what you're complaining about, it all adds up to me.
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