alternative to letro for 19-nor cycles

[mxer_kx]

Hello all just wondering if anyone has suggestions as to an alternative to the common .25 mg letro ed for tren/npp cycles to control estrogen/progesterone related side effects. I was intedning on running the letro like this but my supplier only has 2.5mg capsules so i cant split them so i was thinking of not running the letro but running caber and having aromasin or arimidex on hand . does any one have any input as to this

as for what is available to me is
1mg arimidex capsules
25mg aromasin capsules
500 mcg caber
2.5 mg letro

so you guys can see my perdicament as these are odly dosed capsules wich makes splitting them up next to impossible. also i should note this pertaining to my future prop/npp cycle both dosed at 100 mg ed

[graeme87]

caber and arimidex.

[WARMachine]

bingo! ^

You can crush it into powder and weigh it... Although its hard to find a scale to weigh such a low dose.


Or do .5mg E3D. Thats doable as well.

[LATS60]

Hello all just wondering if anyone has suggestions as to an alternative to the common .25 mg letro ed for tren/npp cycles to control estrogen/progesterone related side effects. I was intedning on running the letro like this but my supplier only has 2.5mg capsules so i cant split them so i was thinking of not running the letro but running caber and having aromasin or arimidex on hand . does any one have any input as to this

as for what is available to me is
1mg arimidex capsules
25mg aromasin capsules
500 mcg caber
2.5 mg letro

so you guys can see my perdicament as these are odly dosed capsules wich makes splitting them up next to impossible. also i should note this pertaining to my future prop/npp cycle both dosed at 100 mg ed

Progestenic sides will only manifest themselves in prescence of estrogen from the aromatisation of test, so adex, at 0.25 ED for starters will be enough.
This should lower the estrogen you get from the prop aromatisation enough not to cause progestenic sides, however keep caber, letro or bromo on hand as always.

[fattymcbutterpants]

i have 2.5mg tablets and i just take a razorblade and try to divide it into nine pieces as closely sized as possible. I would divide it into 10 but everytime you break the tablet a little powder breaks free so each one equals out to around .25mg roughly

[mxer_kx]

Thanks guys but unfourtunately I can't split those doses up as there in capsules and A scale to weigh mcg would be hundreds of dolllars so does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could do with the supplies I previously mentioned I had accesss to. As mentioned befor I'm thiinking aromasin on hand incase of sides and running the caber at 500 mcg every 3-4days

[WARMachine]

Progestenic sides will only manifest themselves in prescence of estrogen from the aromatisation of test, so adex, at 0.25 ED for starters will be enough.
This should lower the estrogen you get from the prop aromatisation enough not to cause progestenic sides, however keep caber, letro or bromo on hand as always.

^^^ This is the way to go IMO.

[mxer_kx]

oh I agree with you completely but with what I have access to it would be impossible to run it at .25 due to thefact it's dosesd at 1mg per CAPSULE so that's why I'm asking if anyone has any suggestions for what I do have access to

[WARMachine]

You only have access to 1mg capsules of Adex?

Have you looked at our sponers site?

[mxer_kx]

yes but I'm in Canada and it takes like 2 months to get here unless that's changed as of recent

[WARMachine]

hmmm....

Well then...

Looks like you are SOL...

Sorry bro...

[Ashop]

Hello all just wondering if anyone has suggestions as to an alternative to the common .25 mg letro ed for tren/npp cycles to control estrogen/progesterone related side effects. I was intedning on running the letro like this but my supplier only has 2.5mg capsules so i cant split them so i was thinking of not running the letro but running caber and having aromasin or arimidex on hand . does any one have any input as to this

as for what is available to me is
1mg arimidex capsules
25mg aromasin capsules
500 mcg caber
2.5 mg letro

so you guys can see my perdicament as these are odly dosed capsules wich makes splitting them up next to impossible. also i should note this pertaining to my future prop/npp cycle both dosed at 100 mg ed

AROMASIN, ARIMIDEX are great option.
you could split the LETRO tab.

[mxer_kx]

do you mean just having them on hand invade or taking 25 mg of aromasin or 1mg arimidex ed cause wouldn't that be overkill

[jc95605]

Ok if you take adex during your cycle you'll have estrogen rebound in pct. You'll have to use either aromison or letro because they do not have a reverse effect. So in answer to your question.....adex w/caber.....letro or aromisn for pct.

[mxer_kx]

but wont 1 mg ed of arimidex be to much ? also isnt the estrogen rebound one of the things we are trying to combat in pct ? in addition to stimulating natural test function ? if thats correct then wouldnt armidex be a bad choice during cycle?

[ReallyBigBiceps]

Progestenic sides will only manifest themselves in prescence of estrogen from the aromatisation of test, so adex, at 0.25 ED for starters will be enough.
This should lower the estrogen you get from the prop aromatisation enough not to cause progestenic sides, however keep caber, letro or bromo on hand as always.

you posted two conflicting statements.

If estrogen is required for progestenic side effects, then adex should be enough. (I disagree)

If progestenic sides would not be an issue then why would he need letro, caber or bromo??

[WARMachine]

Ok if you take adex during your cycle you'll have estrogen rebound in pct. You'll have to use either aromison or letro because they do not have a reverse effect. So in answer to your question.....adex w/caber.....letro or aromisn for pct.

You had better research Letro dude. Youre 100% totally wrong... Letro causes a estrogen rebound effect.

Letro is a horrible choice for PCT for exactly that reason.

[jc95605]

Yep your right. I just read the profile. Apparently i was told wrong. Guess i can't take anybody's word, lol. BTW, thanks for flaming me in here. Thats pretty mature.

[WARMachine]

Whos flaming?

By saying youre totally wrong when you are?

Ok, then i flamed you...

[mxer_kx]

LOL he never flammed you rather corrected you bluntly but back on top is 25 mg ed of aromasin way to much to run ? Aromasin has a 24hr half life correct ? What kind of side effects would there be running it eod ? Also as of right now I'm thinking of just running the caber and only introducing aromasin at 25 mged in the event of estrogenrelated side effects does this soMe like a logical thing to do ?

[WARMachine]

Bro you are overthinking this... If you control estrogen from the beginning, you should not have many progesterone/Prolactin sides. 25mgs of Aromasin is fine.

Whats your cycle again?

Show me what it looks like along with PCT.

[jc95605]

Good job on researching the caber. Alot of ppl that i've seen miss that.

[mxer_kx]

thanks guys i should just mention that one of the other reasons im interested in the caber and im sure you guys can agree with me on this but the sexual benefits just sound amazing lol just one thing though about 25 mg of aromasin would that hinder any gains ? but next cycle isss

Weeks 1-8 Prop/ N.P.P. 100 mgs ed
Weeks 2-8.5 Hcg 500 iu e5d
Weeks 8.5-12.5 Clomid 100mg ed / Nolvadex 20 mg ed / aromasin 25 mg ed

and yes i always tend to over analyse things lol

[WARMachine]

I dont like to run my HCG throughout cycle, although some guys swear by it...

I would however, run it in my PCT.

If i were running your cycle, my PCT would look like this:

Nolvadex 20mg ED
Aromasin 50mg ED
HCG 500 IU's 2xW for the last two weeks of cycle and first two weeks of PCT.
Clomid 25mgs ED (Optional)

[mxer_kx]

i get really good what i guess you could call results from clomid and ive been debating if i should up the dosage on the aromasin during pct as for the hcg its my first go with it so im gonna try it through out and then try it as you mentioned on another cycle and see what my body takes to better but ahhhh i cant decide on the ai during cycle or if i should use one at all for that matter im worried that something like this may happen http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=360593 i think im j ust gonna keep aromasin and caber on hand and use if sides appear

[WARMachine]

Take Adex on cycle then... Or proviron... Or just keep Letro handy...

Aromasin isnt the only way to go...

[Freakish]

hey bro if you wanna use the letro just empty the capsules out and use PEG to dissolve it in = oral letro,

use 1ml PEG per 2,5mg capsule which gives you 2,5mg/ml therefore 0.1ml = 0.25mg.use an oral syringe.i thought id throw it out there...use it...dont use it

[dynamite101]

i got the same dilemma as u bro, pm me where u from bro maybe we from same place

[mxer_kx]

I actually got access to proviron to I forgot to mention that but it's rather costly Ahhhh what to do what to I think the arimidex is dosed to high to be ran effectivly and with the aromasin I'm worried about losing gains and the proviron is rather expensive

[Freakish]

hey bro if you wanna use the letro just empty the capsules out and use PEG to dissolve it in = oral letro,

use 1ml PEG per 2,5mg capsule which gives you 2,5mg/ml therefore 0.1ml = 0.25mg.use an oral syringe.i thought id throw it out there...use it...dont use it

see above

I actually got access to proviron to I forgot to mention that but it's rather costly Ahhhh what to do what to I think the arimidex is dosed to high to be ran effectivly and with the aromasin I'm worried about losing gains and the proviron is rather expensive

make oral letro...real easy

[mxer_kx]

Sounds like a good idea actually where can u get polyethylen glycol ? It's common sold as a laxative solution correct? Can you just buy it over the counter or something like that ?

[Freakish]

yeah its Polyethylene Glycol,not sure if its sold over the counter but there are countless research companies that sell it

["Maximus"]

what is available to me is
1mg arimidex capsules
25mg aromasin capsules
500 mcg caber
2.5 mg letro

Adex can be administered .25mg ED, as well as the Letro at .25mg ED on cycle. However, the Adex is not as suppresive as the letro, so I suggest you use it on cycle; I would leave the letro on standby in case gyno becomes a problem. The real deal is that if you are not experiencing ANY SIDES YET on cycle, don't supress your ESTRO levels. Learn to listen to your body such as noticing your nipples getting tender or if you start noticing that you're getting emotional for small little things, but you can always take precautions by administering the Adex on cycle.

Aromasin should be left for PCT as your base. If you have aromasin, you can replace it for Nolva. I read that you have access to Proviron. Just add the Proviron @50mg ED, along with the Aromasin.

Caber for PCT is great... in fact, caber and some clomid on the PCT is a kick ass VIAGRA cycle Caber dosed at .25mg ED or EOD (depending how you feel your libido reacting to the Caber) is great. Also, b6+caber = lower prolacting levels; but the b6 is not really needed.

I would do it EOD or E3D or even push it to 4 days if my other head keeps me awake until early morning hours 3 days on a row. After awhile, the missy really gets bitchy about it lol!

Originally Posted by Freakish
hey bro if you wanna use the letro just empty the capsules out and use PEG to dissolve it in = oral letro,

use 1ml PEG per 2,5mg capsule which gives you 2,5mg/ml therefore 0.1ml = 0.25mg.use an oral syringe.i thought id throw it out there...use it...dont use it

Ur getting good... never thought about this

Originally Posted by war4BTT
I dont like to run my HCG throughout cycle, although some guys swear by it...

I would however, run it in my PCT.

If i were running your cycle, my PCT would look like this:

Nolvadex 20mg ED
Aromasin 50mg ED
HCG 500 IU's 2xW for the last two weeks of cycle and first two weeks of PCT.
Clomid 25mgs ED (Optional)

Yeap... this would be perfect, in fact my current pct w/out the Aromasin cause I don't have it just yet !