Is it the needle or the juice??

[Matoltsy85]

Just wondering if anybody knows what actually causes that awful soreness after injection? Is it the needle puncturing the muscle or is it the gear absorbing into the muscle that causes the soreness?

[Freakish]

Just wondering if anybody knows what actually causes that awful soreness after injection? Is it the needle puncturing the muscle or is it the gear absorbing into the muscle that causes the soreness?

its the actual compound you inject,once the solvent is absorbed,it crystalizes in depot(in the injection site) and this is what causes the pain

[JiGGaMaN]

But thats not always the case. High benzyl alcohol content can also irritate the muscle.

[jstraw428]

It can be a bunch of things.....high Ba content, the actual hormone crystalizing, also the oil stretching virgn muscle........all these things can contibute to muscle soreness....

[Mulciber]

moving the pin around during injection is another reason..

[redz]

It can be the needle if the pin is moved around alot once inside it can cause soreness but likely the gear or the ba level in the gear is the real cause.

[redz]

moving the pin around during injection is another reason..

beat me to it!

[LATS60]

Just wondering if anybody knows what actually causes that awful soreness after injection? Is it the needle puncturing the muscle or is it the gear absorbing into the muscle that causes the soreness?

Steroids shouldn't cauase pain, we all know that some ugl's can and some don't, but apart from the initial sting of prop or sust, if it;s good stuff made anywhere that has good quality control, then that is not the cause so its's always down to injection protocol and as you know from my thread there are ways to reduce PIP.

[jstraw428]

Steroids shouldn't cauase pain, we all know that some ugl's can and some don't, but apart from the initial sting of prop or sust, if it;s good stuff made anywhere that has good quality control, then that is not the cause so its's always down to injection protocol and as you know from my thread there are ways to reduce PIP.

I take this with a grain of salt......I can use perfect injection protocol in the most cleanliness of environments, and if i inject some winstral or something with high ba,.....it willl probably hurt......

Believe it or not, most pain is not going to be cause by the needle or how you do it...

[Freakish]

Steroids shouldn't cauase pain, we all know that some ugl's can and some don't, but apart from the initial sting of prop or sust, if it;s good stuff made anywhere that has good quality control, then that is not the cause so its's always down to injection protocol and as you know from my thread there are ways to reduce PIP.

Sup lats?
No disrespect but apart from injectin too quickly i dont feel injection protocol has a significant effect on the pain factor,i mean ive basically darted myself i the thigh then walked around with the needle in me and afterwards felt nothing.(not that i suggest any1 do that as its stupid)but non the less i have

[jstraw428]

^^^^I agree with Freakish 100%.... What up bro.....

[LATS60]

I take this with a grain of salt......I can use perfect injection protocol in the most cleanliness of environments, and if i inject some winstral or something with high ba,.....it willl probably hurt......

Believe it or not, most pain is not going to be cause by the needle or how you do it...

UMM, thats what i said. We are talking Post injection pain.
If it;s not the gear it's inj protocol, it can't be anything else can it?

[LATS60]

The same answer, freakish....

[Matoltsy85]

Thanks guys..I was just curious..

Like I said though, this is my first cycle, and only done 2 injection.. one in each arm..So im pretty sure its because of the virgin muscles never being injected...

Do you think when i hit my arm again, it will be as sore as the first time?? being it already been injected before...does the pain lesson after more injections?

[LATS60]

Thanks guys..I was just curious..

Like I said though, this is my first cycle, and only done 2 injection.. one in each arm..So im pretty sure its because of the virgin muscles never being injected...

Do you think when i hit my arm again, it will be as sore as the first time?? being it already been injected before...does the pain lesson after more injections?

WOW, 1st cycle and already injecting in your arms,,, madness

[Freakish]

^^^^I agree with Freakish 100%.... What up bro.....

Hey sup jstraw!all good bro,you?

[LATS60]

YEa SuP dude man, guy all gdddh bro ,, getin innit on down.
If it aint the gear,,,,,,,, OH fvuck it.

[Freakish]

YEa SuP dude man, guy all gdddh bro ,, getin innit on down.
If it aint the gear,,,,,,,, OH fvuck it.

lol what?

[LATS60]

lol what?

,, my one vice, tuesday nights.

[Freakish]

,, my one vice, tuesday nights.

^^lmao

[jstraw428]

Well, then party on Lats.....party on wayne....

[DS21]

WOW, 1st cycle and already injecting in your arms,,, madness

I think he meant shoulders? If he is already doing bi's and tri's that is crazy.

[Matoltsy85]

I think he meant shoulders? If he is already doing bi's and tri's that is crazy.

haha yeah I mean shoulders..thanks for the input guys..