1st cycle : andriol + primo + anavar

[HattoriHanzo]

Hi,

First, i want to apologize for my bad english

I'm 20 e and for my first cycle i thought this program :

1 andriol 240mg ed + primobolan 50mg ed + anavar 20mg ed
2 andriol 240mg ed + primobolan 50mg ed + anavar 20mg ed
3 andriol 240mg ed + primobolan 50mg ed + anavar 20mg ed
4 andriol 240mg ed + primobolan 50mg ed + anavar 20mg ed
5 andriol 240mg ed + primobolan 50mg ed + anavar 20mg ed
6 andriol 240mg ed + primobolan 50mg ed + anavar 20mg ed
7 andriol 240mg ed + primobolan 50mg ed + anavar 20mg ed

my first goal is to lose fat (now around 15%) e maybe gain just a little mass
it's a only oral cycle because now i can't do injections...

my stats are :

20 years old
5'11"
185lbs (around 15% bf)
5 years of weight training
Paleo diet

What do you think of this cycle? and how can i plan a good pct?
thank you

[redz]

Terrible cycle altoghether, man up and learn to inject or forget the juice your liver will thank me later.

[richtries]

Too many orals mate, all the support supps you will have to take to save your liver for example, you´ll soon be gagging popping all those pills.

Personally i would wait another year, makesure you´ve reached your genetic max, then if your still motivated look into a 12 cycle test e 500mg/wk. Only two injections per weerk, soon get used to it.

[AdamGH]

going to thread hijack since this is one of our daily "oral only" cycle threads. always wondered how an oral only cycle compared to alcoholism in terms of damage to the liver. which would be worse? or is oral only cycles tame compared to an alcoholics liver?

[Kratos]

that cycle is not a very liver toxic one at all guys

just a pricy one for the results
20mg of anavar is a chick dose
50mg of primo also a girls dose
adriol is very very weak form of test. If you take enough to equal injecting, you run the risk of pooping your pants.
pretty weak cycle
you need a pct
Stats could be better, I think you should go natty longer.

[Mulciber]

probably best to hold off for a bit..
imo, andriol is garbage.. 50mg of the oral primo is to low as its not absorbed well by the body and has to be ran at much higher doses then the inj to be effective.
the 20mg var is just low..

if i were to run an oral only cycle it would be var

[HattoriHanzo]

Ok....but what cycle could i do without using test?

I'm not sure to use test because i don't want massive muscle gain. With a cycle of
injectables :
- equipoise (for anabolic purposes)
- primobolan (for fat loss purposes)
and proviron like an eventually aromatase inhibitor (for equipoise), could i reach my goals?

[Kratos]

Ok....but what cycle could i do without using test?

I'm not sure to use test because i don't want massive muscle gain. With a cycle of
injectables :
- equipoise (for anabolic purposes)
- primobolan (for fat loss purposes)
and proviron like an eventually aromatase inhibitor (for equipoise), could i reach my goals?

You won't get massive muscle gain from any cycle. It takes years to get massive, not one cycle.
equipoise is weak and will do almost nothing
steroids don't make you loose fat...your diet does
steroids and preserve maximum muscle while you loose weight. Your diet and exercise is what makes you loose weight.

[jstraw428]

[QUOTE=Kratos;4265688]


adriol is very very weak form of test. If you take enough to equal injecting, you run the risk of pooping your pants.
QUOTE]

Good work Kratos.....got to be some of the best advice ever......

[HattoriHanzo]

The truth is that i'm scary of testo because his androgenic effects...
it's not possible a good cycle without it?

i read a cycle on anabolics 2006 of william llewelyn, he said it's a lean mass/cutting cycle :

week proviron equipoise winstrol
1 - 200mg -
2 50mg ed 200mg -
3 50mg ed 200mg -
4 50mg ed 200mg -
5 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
6 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
7 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
8 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
9 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
10 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
11 50mg ed - 20mg ed

what do you think about it?

[Kratos]

The truth is that i'm scary of testo because his androgenic effects...
it's not possible a good cycle without it?

i read a cycle on anabolics 2006 of william llewelyn, he said it's a lean mass/cutting cycle :

week proviron equipoise winstrol
1 - 200mg -
2 50mg ed 200mg -
3 50mg ed 200mg -
4 50mg ed 200mg -
5 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
6 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
7 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
8 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
9 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
10 50mg ed 200mg 20mg ed
11 50mg ed - 20mg ed

what do you think about it?

It's horrible.

[HattoriHanzo]

Ok...
is a only testo cycle better?

and what kind of testo is safer? Thanks