cycle advice

[tcooke2]

stats:
25 years old
6'0" tall
195 lbs
10% bf
5000 calorie intake daily

previous cycles:

10 week cycle
325mg sus
250mg deca
injections every 5 days
50mg d-bol ed for 4 weeks

10 week cycle
500mg sus
250mg deca
injections every 5 days
50mg anadrol - ed for 4 weeks

looking to put on 20lbs...suggestions?

[Mulciber]

how about you put something together including anti-e's and pct then we can take a look at it..

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ agreed ..id also be interested in hearing about your gains (results) from 1st 2 cycles .if you wouldnt mind...

[tbjake34]

How do you inject sus every five days...

[tcooke2]

will have nolva on hand during cycle
weeks 10-14
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 50/50/25/25

started around 160 range...1st cycle put on about 10-15 pounds...2nd put on about 20

[WARMachine]

Youre planning on taking 50mgs of Nolva? Thats too much bro.

And what cycle are you thinking of running?

[tcooke2]

should i bump the nolva to 25mg for weeks 10-14..does the clomid doesage sound good?

im thinking of running 500mg of test c with 400mg eq
weeks 1-10
250mg test c - monday
200mg eq - monday
250mg test c - thursday
200mg eq - thursday

[LuxuryTax]

Why so high in nolva?

[jimmyinkedup]

Id almost repeat your 2nd cycle id just up the deca dose to 400mgs/week . testc 500mgs/week. Jump start cycle with dball like u did . EQ is good but deca will build more mass. If u wanna try eq then id recommend at least starting the first 2 weeks @ 600mgs then drop to 400 or just stick with 600mgs/week whole cycle. If you do run deca stop it a week prior to cyp. Also pct starts 2 weeks after last injection - not immedaitely following. 50mg clomid / 20 nolva should be good pct ratio.

[marcus300]

What were your gains from the previous cycles

[tcooke2]

about 15 from the 1st and about 20 for the 2nd..

[tcooke2]

thanks jimmy...so just so im clear on this...how should i break up my injections if i run test c with the deca......

test c 250mg monday
deca 200mg monday
test c 250mg thursday
deca 200mg thursday

run the test for 10 weeks and the deca for 9?????

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ looks good to me...

[Mulciber]

dont start pct week 10 like you have listed.. gonna let you figure this out....

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ told him that in #9 ..hope he saw it

[tcooke2]

yea i saw it...ill start the pct at week 12..thanks guys

[T_Own]

thanks jimmy...so just so im clear on this...how should i break up my injections if i run test c with the deca......

test c 250mg monday
deca 200mg monday
test c 250mg thursday
deca 200mg thursday

run the test for 10 weeks and the deca for 9?????

you could mix them?

[tcooke2]

instead of running the dbol...i was thinking on eq....400mg week..

1-12 test c 500mg
1-12 eq 400mg
1-10 deca 400mg
nolva on hand

14-17 clomid 50/50/25/25
14-17 nolva 20/20/10/10

any final thoughts

[WARMachine]

Keep the Nolva at 20 throughout PCT.

Might want to add an AI or hCG since youve decided to run a 19-Nor.

Also, DO NOT TAKE NOLVA ON CYCLE!

Nolva on cycle while taking a 19-Nor is a horrible idea. It will produce more side effects.

If you are concerned about gyno and other side effects, consider running an AI throughout the cycle. And always keep Letro on hand when using Deca or Tren.

[Mulciber]

it WILL produce more sides.. or there is a possibility it may..

[WARMachine]

A HIGH possibility....

[Mulciber]

lol... ill never get it out of ya.....

[WARMachine]

nope.... never.

Dont get me wrong, in certain cases. Nolva is the obvious answer on cycle. But IMO its best to run an AI throughout. Though lately i have been reading interesting articles they may bring me over to your side. I like to call it, the evil side.