1st Cycle

[Hittman]

Var @ 50 mg ED Week 1-7
Test Prop @ 50mg EOD Week 1-7
L-Dex @ .5mg EOD Week 1-7

(Do I need the Prop in here to help from shutting down and how would I need to alter my PCT if I was to use Test Enth 100mg Twice a week instead of the Prop at 50mg EOD)

Clomid @ 50mg ED Week 7.5-10
Nolva @ 20mg ED Week 7.5-10

(I will be in Acapulco Week 11 so do you think this PCT will ensure my libido is right where it should be)

On Cycle Supplements:
Fish Oil
Vitamin C
Milk Thistle
Daily Vitamin

(any other suggestions)

Will be cutting as I am 21, 6'2" 210lbs @ 13% bf. My diet will be about 350/100-150/60 (Pro/Carb/Fat)and my carbs will be from oats in the morning and a pre-workout banana or yogurt. All my fat will be from EFA (almonds, coconut oil, minor amount in chicken, tilapia, turkey, and tuna.)

Plan on Running 3-4 miles twice a week and jumping rope for 30 minutes 2 times a week.

Split looks like this:

Monday- Chest/Tri--run
Tuesday- Back/Bi--core
Wednesday- Off--jump
Thursday- Legs--core
Friday- Shoulders--run
Saturday-jump
Sunday-Off (maybe a core workout)

Would you recommend changing that?

[T_Own]

kinda young for a cycle, but good size for now

if you're worried about your trip but are set on a cycle, i would suggest test e and run it 10-12 weeks, so that you don't start pct until you get back so you can do a solid one, and you also won't have to worry about libido on the trip

[Phate]

Var @ 50 mg ED Week 1-7
Test Prop @ 50mg EOD Week 1-7
L-Dex @ .5mg EOD Week 1-7

(Do I need the Prop in here to help from shutting down and how would I need to alter my PCT if I was to use Test Enth 100mg Twice a week instead of the Prop at 50mg EOD)
why such a little dose? you do know that you produce 125mg of test naturally(at least under normal conditions), so you're not going much over that
Clomid @ 50mg ED Week 7.5-10
Nolva @ 20mg ED Week 7.5-10

(I will be in Acapulco Week 11 so do you think this PCT will ensure my libido is right where it should be)
you're only running 2 weeks of pct? not a good idea IMO why not wait till you get back and then run the cycle?
On Cycle Supplements:
Fish Oil
Vitamin C
Milk Thistle
Daily Vitamin

(any other suggestions)

Will be cutting as I am 21, 6'2" 210lbs @ 13% bf. My diet will be about 350/100-150/60 (Pro/Carb/Fat)and my carbs will be from oats in the morning and a pre-workout banana or yogurt. All my fat will be from EFA (almonds, coconut oil, minor amount in chicken, tilapia, turkey, and tuna.)
diet needs work big time, for one thing, coconut oil is a medium chain triglyceride, not an EFA, need alot more carbs at least double
Plan on Running 3-4 miles twice a week and jumping rope for 30 minutes 2 times a week.

Split looks like this:

Monday- Chest/Tri--run
Tuesday- Back/Bi--core
Wednesday- Off--jump
Thursday- Legs--core
Friday- Shoulders--run
Saturday-jump
Sunday-Off (maybe a core workout)

Would you recommend changing that?

where are calves and traps? are they on back and legs day as well, how bout forearms?

BTW, you are a bit too young to be cycling in my opinion, i would like you to post your diet tomorrow, everything you eat in detail, i think you can gain somemore naturally with some tweeks

[Hittman]

Phate,

Calves are with legs
Traps are with Shoulders
Forearms are on Back/Bicep day.

So short of PCT. I was going off what the Anavar post said that you need about 2 weeks of clomid with a var cycle.

Low dosage of test- I have read frequently that var can be cycled without any test so adding a low dosage of test helped. They said to ensure you wont shut down which is the sole purpose I was adding the test, not for gains/rather precautionary against losing libido.

Diet will be

1 cup Oatmeal & 1.5 cup egg whites in a protein shake- meal 1
Turkey wrap (6oz) (low carb wrap) with spinach leaves-- meal 2
8-10oz chicken with brocolli and 1 ounce of almonds--meal 3
protein shake (double scoop) and banana- meal 4
workout
8-12 oz or tilapia/lean pork or steak with spinach salad and no fat dressing- meal 5
protein casein shake before bed with .5 cup eggwhites- meal 6

This is a cutting cycle so why do I need to add carbs... If I doubled carbs I would be looking at around 3000 calories... Pretty high for cutting isn't it?

[T_Own]

phate, 125mg naturally? no.. 70 is more the max in your life

[Phate]

phate, 125mg naturally? no.. 70 is more the max in your life

really? where did i get 125 from? that number just seemed to jump out at me, i must be getting senial in my old age

[Phate]

Phate,

Calves are with legs
Traps are with Shoulders
Forearms are on Back/Bicep day.

So short of PCT. I was going off what the Anavar post said that you need about 2 weeks of clomid with a var cycle.
sorry, i saw the test and assumed you were running a test cycle with var as a backup compound
Low dosage of test- I have read frequently that var can be cycled without any test so adding a low dosage of test helped. They said to ensure you wont shut down which is the sole purpose I was adding the test, not for gains/rather precautionary against losing libido.

Diet will be

1 cup Oatmeal & 1.5 cup egg whites in a protein shake- meal 1
Turkey wrap (6oz) (low carb wrap) with spinach leaves-- meal 2
how much pro/carbs here?
8-10oz chicken with brocolli and 1 ounce of almonds--meal 3
how much fat? chicken amount is fine
protein shake (double scoop) and banana- meal 4
real food, two bananas and 50-60g of protein from tuna here
workout
8-12 oz or tilapia/lean pork or steak with spinach salad and no fat dressing-
that shake would work well here, 60-70g of protein and 70-80g of carbs minimum
meal 5
protein casein shake before bed with .5 cup eggwhites- meal 6
add a fat source, natty pb or a good oil(olive, macadamian, fish)

This is a cutting cycle so why do I need to add carbs... If I doubled carbs I would be looking at around 3000 calories... Pretty high for cutting isn't it?

diet is pretty good but could use some work(see above for suggestions)

again i made an assumption(which i normally don't so i must be getting tired or something), first cycles are almost always bulkers, which i think you're should be as well, but that's just my opinion, in either case, i prefer keeping carbs/proteins high regardless of cutting and bulking, though you are right, 300g of carbs is a bit excessive for a cutter, 300g of protein and 200g of carbs would be a better base to start from

[marcus300]

I would say your to young to cycle, pls read this - http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

Test will shut you down, you dont take it to stop being shut down.

[ZEUS3]

In mean time learn from experanced users for advice be strong bro.

[Phate]

Try doing gear when 21 trust u will get better results
IN MEAN TIME LEARN FROM EXPERANCED USERS FOR ADVICE BE STRONG BRO.

seriously bro, i know you mean well, but you give horrible advice, 21 isn't a magic number that allows you to use gear

[ZEUS3]

I know bro but he`ll prob use it anyway no????
I WAS ALWAYS A SKINNY SHIT BUT NOW THE GEAR GAVE ME CONFIDENCE AND IM GETTIN MARRIED IN MARCH AND GOT 2 KIDS AND RESPECT FROM EVERY 1. OR I **** THEM UP

[Phate]

I know bro but he`ll prob use it anyway no????

not if we can reason with him and show him that it would be beneficial to wait till he has reached his natural potential

[ZEUS3]

No disrespect i did say learn more about gear first before taking it

[ZEUS3]

in mean time learn from experanced users for advice be strong bro.

be strong and stay off it untill reach natural lean I MENT M8