Beginner cycle...but I don't want to inject anything

[rocko1290]

I have been doing alot of reading the past few days and have come across a good bit of information on anabolic steroids. However, it seems like every informational page regarding the cycling of anabolic steroids only refers to injectable steroids..needles are not for me. Im looking to do a beginner cycle of strictly oral anabolic steroids. I found a pretty descent looking cycle, but the main steroid involved is testosterone enanthate or cypionate, which is an injectable anabolic. What, if anything, would be a comparable result-yielding oral substitute for the injectable? I've looked elsewhere and cannot come across an example for a strictly oral cycle.

Primary anabolic: Testosterone enanthate/cypionate (REPLACE w/ oral anabolic)
Secondary anabolic: Dianabol
Aromatase inhibitor: Arimidex
Post cycle therapy: Clomid & IGF-1



Also, I have no clue as to what Armidex, Clomid, or IGF-1 are, like if they're a pill/liquid/powder or what. And I guess its against the rules to ask where to purchase them since I'm assuming they are OTC products?

I'd really appreciate any assistance.

[johnnybigguns]

Honestly IMO if you can't inject then you shouldn't do steroids

[Big]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

[johnnybigguns]

There is no real oral replacement for test e or test c

[Big]

There is no real oral replacement for test e or test c

except maybe andriol, but it's not worth it when compared to injecting.

[rocko1290]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

18.
6 ft.
160 lbs.
Just a guess on my body fat percentage, but id say around 15%.
Been working out pretty consistently for about a year, and dammit I just cant get any bigger.

[rocko1290]

There is no real oral replacement for test e or test c

I don't necessarily have to stick with that specific cycle. Im just looking for advice on a good oral anabolic cycle.

[*RAGE*]

to young you need diet..eat more food.....workout harder j JIMO

[BrunkerVic]

Well, to be honest, strictly oral based steroids are terrible for your body and tend to yield less-than-expected results, except for maybe anavar.

If you can't suck it up and take the needle, don't do it.

If you have someone who could do the injections for you, it would be a lot easier. Oil-based steroids really don't hurt whatsoever, so dont be a *****!

[Big]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

[T-MOS]

WOW,

OK, 18 is a terrible age to start

I just got done with a thread from a 19 year old that is on his 3rd cycle and now he wonders why he can't get an erection
6' and ONLY 160 lbs???? seriously????


Big will be inserting a link for you to read shortly

[T-MOS]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

ROFLMAO

you beat me to it while I was typing it.....

[Big]

oh, and pull your pants up.

[BrunkerVic]

christ your too young bro. even me, a 20 year old, can tell your much too young and undeveloped as a weightlifter.

eat like a horse and train like an animal, you will get alot bigger.

[warchild]

nice gloves

[BrunkerVic]

people on here are fast..

[*RAGE*]

oh, and pull your pants up.

You owe me one t shirt....I just spilt my tea on it....LMFAO

[T-MOS]

Trust us, you are NOT anywhere near ready for steroids, oral or injectable

Steroids work by processing more food than the normal body can naturally process

You are not eating any food, therefore you are not growing

at 6 foot, you can EASILY reach 210-220 Naturally if you just learn to eat the right way

we have a great diet section if you care to do this the right way

If not, then DO NOT do an oral only cycle, You need to get over your fear of injecting.

[stpete]

Welcome man, but you're too young imo as mentioned above.

[rocko1290]

nice gloves

I had calluses on my hands from the bar, ya dick lol

[jbm]

Save yourself my brother cycle when you are 7 years older!

[rocko1290]

6' and ONLY 160 lbs???? seriously????

What are you saying?

[Big]

I know it sounds like we're being pricks, but the fact of the matter is I wasted years of my life and lots of cash trying to grow, when it was my diet that was holding me back. I even had some try to tell me that, but who wants to eat right when you can just do steroids, right? wrong. your natural test levels are likely very high right now, fix the diet first and you will grow.

[jbm]

18.
6 ft.
160 lbs.
Just a guess on my body fat percentage, but id say around 15%.
Been working out pretty consistently for about a year, and dammit i just cant get any bigger.

diet! Diet! Diet!

[rocko1290]

oh, and pull your pants up.

ha i never hear the end of that one

[BrunkerVic]

What are you saying?

Hes saying your not ready.

Eat 6 meals a day, Edited-rules..., but for christ sake dont start a cycle.

[Big]

What are you saying?

I guess you didn't read the link I posted. He's saying your diet sucks, and there is no reason you should be considering steroids.

[T-MOS]

What are you saying?

I am saying save your money on steroids and use it to buy FOOD

you are not anywhere near your natural potential for weight on a 6' frame, therefore steroids will do you NO good at all

any gains you MAY make will be temporary only but the risks will stay forever

I just got done responding to a 19 year old who has done 3 cycles and now can't get an erection..is that what you want too????

You are way too light you need food !!!!

[rocko1290]

I know it sounds like we're being pricks, but the fact of the matter is I wasted years of my life and lots of cash trying to grow, when it was my diet that was holding me back. I even had some try to tell me that, but who wants to eat right when you can just do steroids, right? wrong. your natural test levels are likely very high right now, fix the diet first and you will grow.

who's to say my diet isnt sufficient? I eat about 3000 calories a day consisting mostly of whole grain bread, lunch meat, red meat, eggs as well as protein powder and milk.

[T-MOS]

who's to say my diet isnt sufficient? I eat about 3000 calories a day consisting mostly of whole grain bread, lunch meat, red meat, eggs as well as protein powder and milk.

OMG kid, we are here to helpl you

the numbers are plain and simple THAT IS WHAT SAYS It

PLEASE don't cop an attitude with the experienced members here who are trying to save your sorry butt from doing stupid things that will hurt you

if you are not gonna listen, then we will be done here real quick

[rocko1290]

I guess you didn't read the link I posted. He's saying your diet sucks, and there is no reason you should be considering steroids.

How do you know my diet sucks? I actually eat alot of food every day

[Big]

who's to say my diet isnt sufficient? I eat about 3000 calories a day consisting mostly of whole grain bread, lunch meat, red meat, eggs as well as protein powder and milk.

bro I've been around this longer than you've been alive. I know, beyond any doubt, that your diet is sub-par. know how I know? I read your stats and saw your pic.

[Big]

humor us and list your daily diet in detail, and we'll help you tweak it.

[T-MOS]

How do you know my diet sucks? I actually eat alot of food every day

Um no you don't, you have no clue what a lot of food is

Post up a typical days food intake

[rocko1290]

OMG kid, we are here to helpl you

the numbers are plain and simple THAT IS WHAT SAYS It

PLEASE don't cop an attitude with the experienced members here who are trying to save your sorry butt from doing stupid things that will hurt you

if you are not gonna listen, then we will be done here real quick

yeah man and i appreciate the help

alright gotcha, and my intent was not to cop an attitude. I was just trying to throw out there the fact that I dont think I have a shitty diet

but yall convinced me real quick that steroids prolly arent such a good idea.

[Big]

considering your age, your metabolism is probably very fast. 3000 calories of just the right foods wouldn't be nearly enough for you to grow, and chances are your 3000 calories aren't coming from exactly the right foods.

[jbm]

Listen to this guys bro!
It's for your own good not theirs...

[T-MOS]

here is a typical days bulking diet for me

1- 10 egg whites 2 whole eggs, 2 cups oatmeal, 1/2 grapefruit
2- 2 large chicken breasts, large sweet potato
3- 2 large chicken breasts, large sweet potato, salad
4- 12-16 oz steak, baked potato, vegetables
5- 2 cans tuna fish, sweet potato
6- 1 chicken breast, white rice
7- meal shake during the night

notice, NO lunch meats, NO fast foods, all good quality foods
thats just a sample
I went from 220-260 in 3 months NATURALLY

[warchild]

but he gets the extra meat at mc donalds

[rocko1290]

7:30 am (breakfast): Two eggs & two pieces of whole grain bread or a bowl of oatmeal with 1 cup 2% milk.

11:30 (lunch): Sandwhich w/ 2 pieces whole grain bread & turkey or ham

2:30: power bar/granola bar

3:30: workout

4:30: post workout drink: 2 scoops whey protein, 10 grams glutamine, 10 grams creatine, 1/4 cup dextrose, 1.5 cups 2& milk. comes out to like 600 calories.

5:30: grilled chicken sandwhich or something similar

9-11 pm (depending on what time i get off work) whatever was cooked for dinner generally some kind of meat or fish plus a couple vegetables like green beans or corn and sometimes mixed fruits

The only reason there is such a gap between breakfast and lunch is because I am at school at that time and cant eat in class