am i still shut down!!!!!!

[tinytom777]

ok so first stats and such...

age:25
height: 5'8
weight: 180pounds
bf: 11%
time training - 4 years
no of cycles: 2

1st cycle
Test E - 500mg weeks 1-12
D-bol - 30mg weeks 1-4
PCT
Nolva - 20mg ed week 1-4
2nd cycle

Deca - 400mg weeks 1-6
Sus 250- 500mg weeks 1-6 (only 6 weeks as broke the rest of my gear!!!)
HCG - 500i.u weeks 1-6
PCT
Nolva - 40mg,30mg20mg,10mg - week 1-4
HCG - 2500i.u weekly week 1-2

OK it has now been 3 months since my 2nd cycle (long story about how my gear broke!) and i'm not sure if i'm shut down still, did my pct 2 weeks after last injection, gained some testicular size back but now they seem to vary in size from day to day, still not as big as they were before i started injecting, haven't lost much of my gains and still feel horny though (not sure you wanted to know that but!!!)
i'm getting my bloods done this thursday, if my test levels are low what do you recommend before i start my next cycle? run pct again see if i can get hpta working again? or do cycle then try aggressive pct after?

cycle i'm thinking of next

drug

Deca - 400mg weeks 1-11
Test E - 500mg weeks 1-12
D-bol - 30mg weeks 1-4
HCG - 500i.u twice weekly 3-12

pct to start 2 weeks after last injection (week 14)

PCT

Nolva - 20mg ed week 1-6
exemestane - 25mg ed week 1-4
HCG - 500i.u ed week 1-3
VIT E - 1000i.u ed week 1-3

cheers again for any advice guys

[tinytom777]

ok so first stats and such...

age:25
height: 5'8
weight: 180pounds
bf: 11%
time training - 4 years
no of cycles: 2

1st cycle
Test E - 500mg weeks 1-12
D-bol - 30mg weeks 1-4
PCT
Nolva - 20mg ed week 1-4
2nd cycle

Deca - 400mg weeks 1-6
Sus 250- 500mg weeks 1-6 (only 6 weeks as broke the rest of my gear!!!)
HCG - 500i.u weeks 1-6
PCT
Nolva - 40mg,30mg20mg,10mg - week 1-4
HCG - 2500i.u weekly week 1-2

OK it has now been 3 months since my 2nd cycle (long story about how my gear broke!) and i'm not sure if i'm shut down still, did my pct 2 weeks after last injection, gained some testicular size back but now they seem to vary in size from day to day, still not as big as they were before i started injecting, haven't lost much of my gains and still feel horny though (not sure you wanted to know that but!!!)
i'm getting my bloods done this thursday, if my test levels are low what do you recommend before i start my next cycle? run pct again see if i can get hpta working again? or do cycle then try aggressive pct after?

cycle i'm thinking of next

drug

Deca - 400mg weeks 1-11
Test E - 500mg weeks 1-12
D-bol - 30mg weeks 1-4
HCG - 500i.u twice weekly 3-12

pct to start 2 weeks after last injection (week 14)

PCT

Nolva - 20mg ed week 1-6
exemestane - 25mg ed week 1-4
HCG - 500i.u ed week 1-3
VIT E - 1000i.u ed week 1-3

cheers again for any advice guys

[honda450]

Run the Deca 10 weeks.

Besides that I dont know if you are shutdown.. Id always run the Clomid/Nolva combo.

[tinytom777]

hey cheers, will cut deca from 11 to 10 weeks then do test e for 12, thanks, guess i'll have to wait for bloods to see what my levels are, just wondering what to do if my levels come back as really low?

[Mammon]

yes see how your blood work comes back..
imo the pct you have ran is weak

[SampsonandDelilah]

did you have blood work done prior to your last cycle? If you're levels come back low...you should wait until they are normailized before running another cycle. Time on + PCT = time off.
Pretty weak PCT in my opinion
If you're still low, you could either give your body time...or try and run some Clomid for a month and then test your blood again. If you're testes are slightly smaller, probably a good indicator that you may not fully be recovered.
Get your labs done, if you're normal...run you're cycle, if you're not...give it a month or run Clomid for 30 days (100, 50 , 50, 25...just a suggestion for dosing)....you may want to read up on a recovery dose similar to that of your situation.

I would stick with just a single ester for your next cycle...it's really just your 2nd, since you didnt really get to run the whole thing.
I've never used Hcg (so no help there) but I would think Test E 500 mgs (250X2) for 12 weeks would yield great results. I'd frontload test at 1 gram for the first week instead of a Dbol kicker, but thats me..otherwise the Dbol looks fine.

I'd add Clomid to your Nolva for PCT

good luck

[tinytom777]

hey cheers samp, just the answer i was looking for, simple, well written and great advice, as per usual, i would be lost without this site and probably 120lbs, water retened, itchy soar moobs, no balls quivering mess looking to do my 10th cycle this year and wondering where it all went wrong, thankyou once again!!!!

[johnnybigguns]

Get bloodwork done thats gunna be the only real way to know

[tinytom777]

yep sure is! getting them done this thursday, will post results..chat soon!

[Ashop]

Have your current hormone levels tested and see where you stand.

[*RAGE*]

Have your current hormone levels tested and see where you stand.

and if so what are you levels at....

[tinytom777]

getting bloods done this thursday...will post results, just wondering what to do if my test levels are low, ...chat soon!!!!!

[*RAGE*]

the doc. will put you on hrt or trt......yes keep us up dated...