Can I run sustaplex 1st & finish with cyp?

[mmnjtwa]

I have a 10ml vial of pharmacy test cyp 200 (I can get another if I absolutely must) and a bottle of sustaplex 325 (30mg/ml Testosterone Acetate, 50mg/ml Testosterone Propionate, 50mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpropionate, 90 mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate, 105mg/ml Testosterone Decanoate)

Would it be possible/wise/suggested to start off with the sust since it has the faster esters and then finish off with the cyp? If so how would you suggest the dosage for a 10ml bottle of each? I will be using it along with tren a 100mg ed for 40 days and then finishing off with 4 weeks of winny at 50mg ed.

If I really MUST run cyp all throughout I was planning to front load for the 1st 11 days-2 weeks.

Also I have 5000iu of hcg, lots of clomid, and was thinking about getting nolva (30 -20mg pills) for the PCT...

I am 6'
~195 lbs
low bf%, but don't know the exact number

I'm just looking to add some quality lean mass (maybe a good 10-15lbs) with this cycle... Any extra is fine by me though

Thanks guys

[Mammon]

you can run the sustaplex first and finish with the cyp if you want..
if you can get the cyp i would.. just not a fan of the blends like that.

my bigger concern is the 100ml of tren ed... lol
i guess you mean MG ehhhh

[mmnjtwa]

yeah haha sorry, 100mg of tren...

so how about this:

weeks 1-3 sust 325mg eod
weeks 4-7 cyp 200 e3.5d
weeks 1-7 tren a 100mg ed
weeks 6-9 winny 50mg ed
weeks 9-11 clomid 100/50/50

Would it be best to start the HCG in week 6 or 7 and then taper down into 8 & 9? And would nolva be advised/necessary?

[Mammon]

ehh needs work,, to short.
you wait 18 days after cyp to start pct.
id run pct another week and add clomid

[mmnjtwa]

so basically run the winny starting on week 7 and push back the clomid another week? Should I run the winny longer than 4 weeks and at what dose?

[mmnjtwa]

anyone else?

bump for the weekday morning crew

[hankdiesel]

yeah haha sorry, 100mg of tren...

so how about this:

weeks 1-3 sust 325mg eod
weeks 4-7 cyp 200 e3.5d
weeks 1-7 tren a 100mg ed
weeks 6-9 winny 50mg ed
weeks 9-11 clomid 100/50/50

Would it be best to start the HCG in week 6 or 7 and then taper down into 8 & 9? And would nolva be advised/necessary?

This is a ton of gear to cram into such a short period of time. What is your cycle history?

[mmnjtwa]

This is a ton of gear to cram into such a short period of time. What is your cycle history?

Before I had any clue and was a young buck (23 y/o) looking to try and get a few extra pounds before summer I did a cycle of just dbol.

The following year in spring I did another cycle of dbol and anadrol with clomid as a pct. I still didn't know shit about aas, but at least I knew some sort of pct was needed.

At the ed of last year I did:
wks 1-3 dbol 50mg ed
wks 1-5 tren a 100mg eod
pct with clomid


I finally got a clue and have been doing some research and want to make the most of this next cycle. I made and kept gains of about 10 lbs in the 1st dbol cycle. The 2nd one I was making good gains but ruined my shoulder while wakeboarding and couldn't get into the gym for about 2 months. My last cycle was supposed to be a bit longer, but I had a mishap with one of the bottles of tren.

This will be my 1st cycle using test and I mainly am using it because it is supposed to be the base for all cycle, plus I can tell my libido is wayyyyy down after the cycle with pretty much just tren.

Like I said I have 4 10ml bottles of tren, 1 10ml bottle of cyp, 1 10ml bottle of sust, and LOTS of winny. I could get another bottle of cyp if I had to and it was highly recommended???

I would like to start this cycle the 1st week of March so that is why I am trying to fine tune it now. Again, the goal of this cycle is to gain quality lean mass. I want to be comfortably over 200 lbs so that the scale never goes below it now matter how much my water weight shifts from day to day along with low body fat %. (I currently have a swing of about 2-3lbs day in weight fluctuation.)

[jstraw428]

This is a ton of gear to cram into such a short period of time. What is your cycle history?

thats really not that much gear....Also, not a very well thought out cycle as well

[mmnjtwa]

thats really not that much gear....Also, not a very well thought out cycle as well

What is wrong with the cycle? Not good gear to use together or the timing and dosage is off? If that is the case... how about giving me a better timeline for the cycle since I have provided the amount of each thing I have instead of just saying it sucks!!!

I came on here for help, not someone to tell me I don't know what I am doing... If I were the authority on steroids I surely wouldn't be asking for advice now would I?

[jstraw428]

easy bro....calm down.....

Cypionate is a long ester test and will take about four weeks to reach a stable level in your system, unless you frontload.....your only gonna be running it weeks 4-7 so basically it will have not even reach stable levels before you stop...

Also, why are you starting with sust, and then switching...why dont you just run one or the other....personally i would stick with a single ester test, also this is easier for beginners to keep stable with less shot frequency...

3 weeks of winny at only 50mg ed is not enough really to do anything....

How familiar are you with tren...100mg ed???? are you sure???

[jstraw428]

Kids are getting so hostile now a days....everyone just needs to RELAX.....

[SampsonandDelilah]

Kids are getting so hostile now a days....everyone just needs to RELAX.....

I blame all of the energy drink companies!

[The Deuce]

I blame all of the energy drink companies!

HAHAHAHA


DOWN WITH RED BULL !!!

[MMArmour]

Kids are getting so hostile now a days....everyone just needs to RELAX.....

im guilty.

[flabbywussy]

wrong. his sust has cyp in it, so no need to frontload i would run the test lower to like 300/week and do the winny for 6 weeks @25mg/day but it all depends on if it's oral winny, injectable, or ug lab. if it's human grade 6 weeks @25mg/day is good imo.


i'm not a big fan of high doses of test i'd just have it there for the sex drive so 300/wk split should be good enough. the sust eod

easy bro....calm down.....

Cypionate is a long ester test and will take about four weeks to reach a stable level in your system, unless you frontload.....your only gonna be running it weeks 4-7 so basically it will have not even reach stable levels before you stop...

Also, why are you starting with sust, and then switching...why dont you just run one or the other....personally i would stick with a single ester test, also this is easier for beginners to keep stable with less shot frequency...

3 weeks of winny at only 50mg ed is not enough really to do anything....

How familiar are you with tren...100mg ed???? are you sure???

[mmnjtwa]

easy bro....calm down.....

Cypionate is a long ester test and will take about four weeks to reach a stable level in your system, unless you frontload.....your only gonna be running it weeks 4-7 so basically it will have not even reach stable levels before you stop...

Also, why are you starting with sust, and then switching...why dont you just run one or the other....personally i would stick with a single ester test, also this is easier for beginners to keep stable with less shot frequency...

3 weeks of winny at only 50mg ed is not enough really to do anything....

How familiar are you with tren...100mg ed???? are you sure???

I was starting with the sust so I wouldn't have to frontload the cyp when I started it. I figured 4 weeks of sust and 4 weeks of cyp could work.

And weeks 6-9 is actually 4 weeks... I could run longer at 50mg ed (oral) if needed, I have plenty.

And I was running tren before at 100mg eod, just was planning to up the dose... Would you suggest 75ed or what?

[mmnjtwa]

Kids are getting so hostile now a days....everyone just needs to RELAX.....

Sorry I was upset.. Having trouble with the baby momma and I was in a bad mood.

[Outta Kontrol]

should not tren be ed??? I would go with 50mg ed but if you are going to run it eod I guess 100 mgs eod would work

[Outta Kontrol]

yeah haha sorry, 100mg of tren...

so how about this:

weeks 1-3 sust 325mg eod
weeks 4-7 cyp 200 e3.5d
weeks 1-7 tren a 100mg ed
weeks 6-9 winny 50mg ed
weeks 9-11 clomid 100/50/50

Would it be best to start the HCG in week 6 or 7 and then taper down into 8 & 9? And would nolva be advised/necessary?

so... you are planning on AT LEAST 975 mgs of sust per week for the first 3 weeks. then you are going to drop the test down to 400 mgs of Test C for the last 4 weeks while running 700 mgs of Tren a week???
Wow!

[mmnjtwa]

Soooo... drop the tren down some? How about 75mg ed? I was doing 100 eod before and thought I should up it a bit.

The sust has longer esters in it that wouldn't really be kicking in until around the time I started the cyp which I figured would work out. So I wouldn't be getting an astronomical amount of test each week as it may have seemed... Right?

[Outta Kontrol]

Soooo... drop the tren down some? How about 75mg ed? I was doing 100 eod before and thought I should up it a bit.

The sust has longer esters in it that wouldn't really be kicking in until around the time I started the cyp which I figured would work out. So I wouldn't be getting an astronomical amount of test each week as it may have seemed... Right?

and for this reason a lot of people dont reccomend mixing the test. especially in the order you have it here. If anything I would run test prop and sust for the first ten days and then drop the prop. This is in a sence using the prop as a kickstart to the cycle. In many ways the same as when using an oral to kickstart a cycle. as for the tren i dont see anything wrong with 450 mgs of tren a week.

[mmnjtwa]

and for this reason a lot of people dont reccomend mixing the test. especially in the order you have it here. If anything I would run test prop and sust for the first ten days and then drop the prop. This is in a sence using the prop as a kickstart to the cycle. In many ways the same as when using an oral to kickstart a cycle. as for the tren i dont see anything wrong with 450 mgs of tren a week.

Do you not know what is in sust? (it was listed in the original post) Sust contains test prop AND acetate which in essence DOES kick start the cycle.

[mmnjtwa]

Screw it, I'll just get another bottle of cyp and front load then run it for about 9 weeks along with 7 weeks or so of tren.

[Outta Kontrol]

Do you not know what is in sust? (it was listed in the original post) Sust contains test prop AND acetate which in essence DOES kick start the cycle.

i know exactly what is in sust. I am just offering you another alternative to your cycle. you came here for help/responces. If you want you can run prop for ten days and then do test c or e. really doesnt matter. but when you are talking aboiut using sust to kickstart people are looking at you like wtf!!! you never TRUELY know what your levels are will u use a multi estered compound

[Outta Kontrol]

Screw it, I'll just get another bottle of cyp and front load then run it for about 9 weeks along with 7 weeks or so of tren.

lol damn man your baby moma must be kicking that a s s thats sounds like a good idea thou. I find the less complicated the better the cycle. good old KISS theory. lol hahaha

[mmnjtwa]

i know exactly what is in sust. I am just offering you another alternative to your cycle. you came here for help/responces. If you want you can run prop for ten days and then do test c or e. really doesnt matter. but when you are talking aboiut using sust to kickstart people are looking at you like wtf!!! you never TRUELY know what your levels are will u use a multi estered compound

Well I don't have any immediate access to prop so that is not an option, but thanks for the alternative idea. I mentioned a few times I could get another bottle of cyp, but that is about it. I was trying to figure out the best way for this time with what I had and have available...

lol damn man your baby moma must be kicking that a s s thats sounds like a good idea thou. I find the less complicated the better the cycle. good old KISS theory. lol hahaha

I guess I'll try that then. And yes, she is annoying the shit out of me!

[flabbywussy]

not all sust has same test esters in it depends on brand