bulking...sus and eq advice needed

[ad_2nv121]

although i have use steroids beforeit was well over a year ago, when i ran test enanthate 250 mg a week for bout 10 weeks and some winny (cant quite rememba what the dosage was) and probably a year before that i used test and trenblone. any ways more to the point i intend on running a cycle for the summer but cant quite seem to make my mind, the 2 choices i have in mind are;
sutanon 250-250mg a week-wk1-12
equipoise-400 mg-week1-12

or alternatively alhough probably less to my liking at the moment theres;
sustanon 250-wk 1-12
deca-200mg-wk1-12

...can anyone tell me approximately what sort of maintable weight i should be expecting to gain on either cycles?and what pct would be best

[johnnybigguns]

Whats your age/height/weight/bf%

[CHUCKYthentic]

age?
height?
weight?
bf%?
goal for this cylce?

[CHUCKYthentic]

why does this seem like a reoccuring theme johnny?
damnit you always beat me to posts! hahaha

[johnnybigguns]

why does this seem like a reoccuring theme johnny?
damnit you always beat me to posts! hahaha

It's like a broken record in here most of the time lol
You'll get me when im not paying attention

[ad_2nv121]

age 22 (when i intend on starting cycle)
bodyfat around 20 last i checked alhtough should be less by the time i start the cycle as im on a pretty effective cutting cycle for now(clen eca etc)
height-6ft
weight-209pounds

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya man you gota get that bf% down to minimum 14-15%
22 is young but id be a hypocrite for saying that.
so do you want to bulk or lean out?
what you have for pct?

[CHUCKYthentic]

and you are starting this cycle when?

[johnnybigguns]

Your still alittle to young but your already in so.
I would get your BF down to around 15% first

and I would suggest
1-12 test e 500mg per week alone

also research the pct section

[johnnybigguns]

You got me chucky lol

[CHUCKYthentic]

You got me chucky lol

finally prevailed

[ad_2nv121]

i intend on starting the cycle around may...but which of the 2 should i do? and sort of weight and size would i be gaining from either?

...and one more thing i know that a lot of the time after the cycle is used to maintain the gains, but how long after the cycle do you rackon i start making natural gains again?

[CHUCKYthentic]

where to start....
you need to answer a few of our questions before we can just give you the answers you are asking.
what is your desired goal for this cycle?
what do you have planned for pct? do you even know what this is?

im leaning to just tell you run a test e only cycle because you dont seem to know a whole lot, and i dont mean that in an offensive way

[johnnybigguns]

research the PCT section you need to run a PCT after cycle.
No one can tell you your gains thats on your training and diet

I recommend test e 1-12 weeks 500mg a week

[johnnybigguns]

Your previous cycle and the cycles you have posted are weak and low dosed

[johnnybigguns]

Eq is weak and deca at that dose is useless and you might as well just burn your money

[ad_2nv121]

i have the pct near enough planned, clomid-nolvadex for cycle one with probably some clen for the anti catobolic thing (yes i know no research has proven this but its seemed to work for me so far)

and the same for the second cyle with the addition of hcg

i dont want to run 500mg of test because the last time i rand 250 i almost killed someone lol, and i work as a doorman...plus a freind of mines said that test is crap for retaining gains and sus is a whole lot better

[Mammon]

sust is test bro.. a blend of 4 esters..
your friend is clueless

[johnnybigguns]

If you got a short fuse that has nothing to do with gear thats you

[CHUCKYthentic]

i for one like EQ, but ya eq and deca will def give you different results.
read the pct stickies; i like pheednos, stockys and swiftos

well you dont have to have a high dose of test. if you were considering a low dose then maybe try 300mg/test e stacked with 600mg/deca per week therefore leaving deca as your workhorse. eq with a low test dose prob wont do shit and leave you disappointed

as for what your buddy said, that is bs. gains you keep after your cycle are dependant on you

[CHUCKYthentic]

If you got a short fuse that has nothing to do with gear thats you

^^^^ totally agree with that too. i hate when peop blame the juice