V-lines

[Sashka88]

Hey guys this is my 4 th week of being on Test -E. I noticed my V lines on the sides are getting very cut and going up farrr. What does this mean?

[Dukkit]

huh?

you mean your obliques?

or your lats?

[Sashka88]

huh?

you mean your obliques?

or your lats?

Umm there are V lines on each side of your stomach.. not lats

[Dukkit]

Umm there are V lines on each side of your stomach.. not lats

lol

yes those are your obliques

and if your big and lean enough, youll have "v-lines" on your lats too
thats why i was confused


and what that means is... your losing body fat and your muscles are showing.

thats all

what cycle are you on? what are your stats? what does your diet look like?

[JiGGaMaN]

could it be the serratus, dukkit??

[Dukkit]

nah. i think hes talkin about the cleavage

[JiGGaMaN]

nah. i think hes talkin about the cleavage

yeah you can make some great gains in the breast area with the right diet and dose of dbol, lol.

[Sashka88]

lol

yes those are your obliques

and if your big and lean enough, youll have "v-lines" on your lats too
thats why i was confused


and what that means is... your losing body fat and your muscles are showing.

thats all

what cycle are you on? what are your stats? what does your diet look like?

Sorry haha. Im on Test E for 16 weeks... im 5 11/162/15% BF/ 4 weeks in/ Diet is in check. It looks a little weird ahaha

[Dukkit]

Sorry haha. Im on Test E for 16 weeks... im 5 11/162/15% BF/ 4 weeks in/ Diet is in check. It looks a little weird ahaha

well what are your goals with this cycle?

cuz at 15% body fat you shouldnt be seeing to much definition, especially in the obliques

your only 162 at 5'11? thats kinda small. how old are ya?

[Sashka88]

well what are your goals with this cycle?

cuz at 15% body fat you shouldnt be seeing to much definition, especially in the obliques

your only 162 at 5'11? thats kinda small. how old are ya?

Iam 20.. very knowledgble in cycling and know what to look for.

Iam trying to gain mass from the cycle not getting defined.

[Dukkit]

Iam 20.. very knowledgble in cycling and know what to look for.

Iam trying to gain mass from the cycle not getting defined.

so im gonna hope you know what PCT is?
if so... what does yours look like for this cycle?

[SuperLift]

Iam 20.. very knowledgble in cycling and know what to look for.

Iam trying to gain mass from the cycle not getting defined.

Prolly not as knowledgeable as you think. Being 5'11 162. The diet is definitely off.

Post up your diet for us. And they are right, at 15% you can see NO abs.

[Sashka88]

so im gonna hope you know what PCT is?
if so... what does yours look like for this cycle?

Nolvadex and clomid.

[Sashka88]

Prolly not as knowledgeable as you think. Being 5'11 162. The diet is definitely off.

Post up your diet for us. And they are right, at 15% you can see NO abs.

I will be honest much before the cycle my diet was way off. 2 months before the cycle i started eating a lot and starting gain mass and weight like crazy.

I now eat- oatmeal, steak,chicken,pasta,rice

[lozza89]

sigh some people have no clue your 162lbs at 5'11 your about 40 pounds away from starting your first cycle , seirously learn how to diet because your just gna loose all your gains few months after cycle bro.

[Shurik]

Agree. What's done is done so up your calorie intake and enjoy the ride.

[NS]

With those stats you must literally have never been to the gym before starting this cycle?

[Immortal Soldier]

With those stats you must literally have never been to the gym before starting this cycle?

Exactly, another 20 year old who jumps on steroids to try to get big.

V-lines at 15% bf? hahah ok...

[Mad HaTTer]

Those aren't V Lines, they're rolls

[JiGGaMaN]

have we determined what a v-line is?

[GottaGetIt]

Pics?

[musclehead1983]

Too young to be cycling. Why is everyone trying gear so damn young. Wait till you are atleast 25 or so. You have plenty of time to grow naturally. Eat, lift, sleep, repeat. You will grow. Hold off gear till 25. My opinion, no hard feelings. I'm just tired of seeing people starting too young. I don't want you to hurt yourself bud.

[Sashka88]

With those stats you must literally have never been to the gym before starting this cycle?

Umm i been lifting.. it was on and off and nowhere as heavy and serious as iam now.

[Sashka88]

Those aren't V Lines, they're rolls

Sorry buddy, i got no rolls....

[Sashka88]

Sorry buddy, i got no rolls....

I took pics... let me know on how to upload...other then hosting from a URL.

[Dukkit]

I took pics... let me know on how to upload...other then hosting from a URL.

click the "go advanced" tab on the reply box

then scroll down on that screen

and youll see a box that says "manage attachments"

click it and then load pics from your computer if you dont want to use a URL hosting site

[sidvicious247]

Exactly, another 20 year old who jumps on steroids to try to get big.

V-lines at 15% bf? hahah ok...

im not tryin to be a smart ass, u prolly know tons more than me, i dont know exactly what my bf is, but around my hips and tummy im soft, no visible abs unless i tighten up, and my v lines are pretty badass, guess its just my build...? Anyway i guess ill check my bf to be another statistic to the chubby boy V line arguement, ill let ya'll know. with a pic

[Bender45]

Come on, fellas. Advising him that he's not ready for gear yet is one thing (and I happen to agree), but making fun of him because of his weight and saying that he's probably never been to a gym seems a little mean. I don't think that's what we're trying to project here, is it? That big, buff, steroid-guys make fun of skinny people.

Let's try to steer him in the right direction without making ourselves look like bullies.

[NS]

ok Bender

[Bender45]

ok Bender

Thank you.

[sidvicious247]

Come on, fellas. Advising him that he's not ready for gear yet is one thing (and I happen to agree), but making fun of him because of his weight and saying that he's probably never been to a gym seems a little mean. I don't think that's what we're trying to project here, is it? That big, buff, steroid-guys make fun of skinny people.

Let's try to steer him in the right direction without making ourselves look like bullies.

you got my respect.
I hate being skinny =[

if ya'll got time i'm still waiting for some good advice, i posted recently "deca test winny tren hgh stack", if ya'll could help it'd be appreciated.

[Immortal Soldier]

Come on, fellas. Advising him that he's not ready for gear yet is one thing (and I happen to agree), but making fun of him because of his weight and saying that he's probably never been to a gym seems a little mean. I don't think that's what we're trying to project here, is it? That big, buff, steroid-guys make fun of skinny people.

Let's try to steer him in the right direction without making ourselves look like bullies.

I am sorry I don't condone people who's stats make it seem like they have never been to gym before who are under the age of 21 who decide to jump on steroids to make themselves dedicated.

You don't need steroids to get a good body, hell most of my friends are natural and they did it by diet and exercise not saying "Oh well now I am serious so I am going to jump on steroids"

These same types of people will die out after cycle they get lazy or after a while they can't keep up the dedication and slack off and thats when the gains start leaving because they had NO NATURAL MUSCLE BASE prior to working out.


So yeah...I have no respect for these types of guys, I don't care what the OP thinks of me and i don't care what you think of me.

I JUST DON'T GIVE A ****! You dig?

[Bender45]

I am sorry I don't condone people who's stats make it seem like they have never been to gym before who are under the age of 21 who decide to jump on steroids to make themselves dedicated.

You don't need steroids to get a good body, hell most of my friends are natural and they did it by diet and exercise not saying "Oh well now I am serious so I am going to jump on steroids"

These same types of people will die out after cycle they get lazy or after a while they can't keep up the dedication and slack off and thats when the gains start leaving because they had NO NATURAL MUSCLE BASE prior to working out.


So yeah...I have no respect for these types of guys, I don't care what the OP thinks of me and i don't care what you think of me.

I JUST DON'T GIVE A ****! You dig?

And I don't give a fock what you think, so we're even there. As I said, I agree with the advice that he's not ready for gear. It was the insult that 'he's never been to the gym' that was dickish.

I'm done now. Handle these beginners anyway you wish. For me, personally, I tire of having people think that any of us bigger-guys think we're hot-sh!t and look down upon and make fun of anyone skinny or just starting out. When I satrted, I was about 145 lbs. Believe me, when I got to be 165 lbs. ( along time ago), I certainly was no stranger to the gym, so that generalization is as wrong as it is mean-spirited.

Carry on, fellas, and good luck to the OP. Some of us are here to help, so you, might have to sift through the some of the tough guys' advise before you find it.

[Sashka88]

And I don't give a fock what you think, so we're even there. As I said, I agree with the advice that he's not ready for gear. It was the insult that 'he's never been to the gym' that was dickish.

I'm done now. Handle these beginners anyway you wish. For me, personally, I tire of having people think that any of us bigger-guys think we're hot-sh!t and look down upon and make fun of anyone skinny or just starting out. When I satrted, I was about 145 lbs. Believe me, when I got to be 165 lbs. ( along time ago), I certainly was no stranger to the gym, so that generalization is as wrong as it is mean-spirited.

Carry on, fellas, and good luck to the OP. Some of us are here to help, so you, might have to sift through the some of the tough guys' advise before you find it.

I know that if i keep dieting and working out.. i should keep most of my gains... im not a weakling.. i weigh 162 lbs but do 185 10x.. so for my weight im deff not weak and dont look as small.

[mg1228]

hey sashka, Im 5'11 175 10% bf--started 1st cycle at 160 16% bf---did test,tren for 5 weeks and went to 176 and 14%-and didnt lose it---now on 2nd cycle 4weeks in cleaned up my diet added cardio and im at 175 9-10% bf---i was no stranger to the gym before i started either---i do agree with them on your age though--too young---but if you already started **** it---just get your pct in line--and dont cycle again till your older---good luck

[Immortal Soldier]

And I don't give a fock what you think, so we're even there. As I said, I agree with the advice that he's not ready for gear. It was the insult that 'he's never been to the gym' that was dickish.

I'm done now. Handle these beginners anyway you wish. For me, personally, I tire of having people think that any of us bigger-guys think we're hot-sh!t and look down upon and make fun of anyone skinny or just starting out. When I satrted, I was about 145 lbs. Believe me, when I got to be 165 lbs. ( along time ago), I certainly was no stranger to the gym, so that generalization is as wrong as it is mean-spirited.

Carry on, fellas, and good luck to the OP. Some of us are here to help, so you, might have to sift through the some of the tough guys' advise before you find it.

Where did I say I think I am hot ****? No where so don't put words in my mouth. I don't agree with people who have "average" stats taking steroids.

"But you don't understand bro, I am actually pretty strong"

"I know alot, I was on and off, but now I think I am serious"

blah blah blah

I heard it all, you don't need steroids to grow, when I first started working out I weighed 134lbs at 6'0, my first time benching I benched 55lbs (thats the bar and one 5lb one each side). In 4 months I was able to get up to 172 and by the end of the year I was 175 10%bf. That was ALL NATURAL, just food and above all achieved that in my first year of ever working out!

Now your telling me that someone needs steroids at 162 15% bf? No they don't that, not because they I think they are 'small' or I think I am "jacked and the authority on subjects" its because it shows either lack of diet/training/dedication.

But whatever, whatever he wants to do he can do, just don't put words in peoples mouth.