May I get a cycle critique please?

[Konsideration]

Me: 175 pounds; 16% body fat; 35 y/o.
Goal: To lean down and bulk up.

This will be my 5th cycle in 10 years; my last ending in 4/08 with a 250mg TestE/200mg deca stack.


I've done some reading and have come up with the following:

Cycle:
Week 1 - 6: TestP 100mg EOD
Week 1 - 4: 120mg Clen ED
Week 7 - 12: TrenA 75mg EOD
Week 7 - 12: 50mg Oral Win ED
Week 8 - 12: 120mg Clen ED
Week 14 - 16: Vit E 1000iu ED/HCG 500iu ED
Week 14 - 19: Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 14 - 18: Exmestane 20mg ED

May I get some feedback on this cycle please? Thanks...

[jimmyinkedup]

Me: 175 pounds; 16% body fat; 35 y/o.
Goal: To lean down and bulk up.

This will be my 5th cycle in 10 years; my last ending in 4/08 with a 250mg TestE/200mg deca stack.


I've done some reading and have come up with the following:

Cycle:
Week 1 - 6: TestP 100mg EODrun this till week 12
Week 1 - 4: 120mg(mcg) Clen EDstart this out lower and build it up to 120 mcg over the 4 weeks...it may not be effective that long
Week 7 - 12: TrenA 75mg EOD
Week 7 - 12: 50mg Oral Win ED
Week 8 - 12: 120mg(mcg) Clen EDsame here - start low and build up
Week 14 - 16: Vit E 1000iu ED/HCG 500iu ED
Week 14 - 19: Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 14 - 18: Exmestane 20mg ED

May I get some feedback on this cycle please? Thanks...

i like the winny tren prop combo. Id run the hcg last 3-4 weeks of cycle at 500iu 2x /week or E3D up to pct - not during pct. Pct on this cycle should start 3 days post inject. I think the pct combo is ok - although i dont see the necessity to run it out 6 weeks ... maybe run the aromasin 4 weeks and the nolva 5 . Vit E - eh whatever....JMO
you may want to try and lower bodyfat for your own benefit re: sides etc. Alos to lean down and bulk up - ehhhh not likely - its a cutting cycle imo.......
Also many will say inj prop and tren a ed - eod may be just fine...your call.... also some will say run tren up front - i personally love finishing with tren / winny combo - again JMO

[Big]

yep, definitely don't want to stop the prop then start the tren.

[Karo]

Dumb question- what's the vitamin E for?

[Konsideration]

Suggestions noted and taken.

I've read conflicting information concerning the binding properties of Tren (i.e. it binds tightly freeing up the Test thus increasing it's effectivness when combined with Tren) and Test. I wasn't sure which way to go with it. Some say that they have seen better results separating the two during the cycle.

I have also read that Tren can either be used as a bulking or cutting agent, all depending on your diet and cardio routines. From anyone's experience, is this true?

Karo - I've read that Vit. E increases the responsiveness of plasma testosterone levels to HCG, making them significantly higher during vitamin E administration than without it.

[JiGGaMaN]

try doing:
1-6 prop
1-6 tren
1-6 winny

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ prob a good idea - add in clen too if u like - do a 6 week cut cyle ...then pct & time off etc...then a good 12 week bulk - i dont know your height but at 175lbs 16 % - i think that may be a good way to go...... id be looking to bulk - but not at 16% so IMO thats a good route...

[Konsideration]

What about a 6 week cutting cycle as suggested...pct/time off...then another 6 week cutting cycle to get leaned up pretty good before bulking? Or do you think one cutting cycle will be sufficient?
Will i be able to maintain my gains post cycle with these meds? 75% maybe??

[Konsideration]

What about a 6 week cutting cycle as suggested...pct/time off...then another 6 week cutting cycle to get leaned up pretty good before bulking? Or do you think one cutting cycle will be sufficient?
Will i be able to maintain my gains post cycle with these meds? 75% maybe??

[Konsideration]

Oh...and my height is 5'9"

[jimmyinkedup]

make sure diet / workout in order...you dont really need to decide till post 1st cut cycle anyway do you ? i mean if you didnt drop enough bodyfat or arent during cycle first of all change something - second of all bump it to 8 weeks if needed- or third simply decide post cycle & pct - see where you are and take it from there ...JMO....