18 year old TESTOSTERONE question help!

[flex.w]

hey guys!this is my first post,and i want to congratulate everyone on this forum by making it so elucidative.

i researched a bit on this subject and i still cant figure it out ,my first doubt is that i found this graphic http://men.webmd.com/testosterone-15738?page=2 its very confusing because it represents the 20 year old to 39 y old with more testosterone that those who have 16 to 19 yo and what i used to think was that the levels start lowering ate the age of 26 to 30?and my other doubt is even if this article isnt true and a 18 yo male like me has more testosterone that a 26 yo or 30 yo,why cant we use artificial testosterone but in smaller doses than the doses that a 30 yo whould be using,i think that a 30 yo on testosterone whould have higher levels than a 18 or 19 yo natural?so we would be using less but since naturally we have more testosterone our levels should become the same that a 30 yo on test?plz help me because i am ver confused.i think i couldn't be very clear on this thread but ist because im portuguese and there are some words that dont come out sorry about my english.(im not thinking of using roids right now because i dont want to close my growth plates and this is the most important i dont have the knowledge to do it yet,i just want to learn has much as possible and clear my doubts)cheers

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

The Problem is that an 18 year old's Growth Plates are not fused yet and still growing.

ANY form of steroids chance fusing those growth plates

also using steroids will SHUT DOWN all of your natural production of Testosterone while risking that it won't return to its previous natural level

[FireGuy]

That is definately an interesting chart but using an average of men 20-39 seems like way to high of an age range to depict accuracy among that group.

[Dukkit]

i had to look up... elucidative
lol

[flex.w]

Welcome to AR

The Problem is that an 18 year old's Growth Plates are not fused yet and still growing.

ANY form of steroids chance fusing those growth plates

also using steroids will SHUT DOWN all of your natural production of Testosterone while risking that it won't return to its previous natural level

but closing down the natural test isnt a side effect that can occur despite the age of the user?thanks for the answers

[RipitFuel]

i had to look up... elucidative
lol

So we are gonna get the definition? wtf dukk? haha

[flex.w]

That is definately an interesting chart but using an average of men 20-39 seems like way to high of an age range to depict accuracy among that group.

yeah thats what a think,but its not the first chart that i see that puts the twentys with more testosterone that the ones with 16 to 19 yo its very strange because it goes against almost everything that people think right?

[kdizzog]

I agree, and like tmos said a out shutting down you natural test. I also heard the younger you are the better the rebound of bringing your test levels back up. I don't condone kids using juice but it contradicts itself.

[T-MOS]

but closing down the natural test isnt a side effect that can occur despite the age of the user?thanks for the answers

well , you missed my point there.

Would you rather risk losing a low amount of your natural test from being shut down and not returning when you are an older age and your natural test is ALREADY LOW,

OR

Would you rather be at the PEAK of your natural hormone production and shut that down risking it not coming back up to the HIGH levels that is was before???


In older adults whose test is already on the DECLINE, the possibility of TRT for life isn't as bad as being 18 and having to go on TRT for life adn having to worry about all the other health problems that can come with that. Such as:

Stunted growth in teens (by causing bones to mature too fast and stop growing at an early age)

Liver tumors

Abnormal enlargement of the heart muscles

Violent, aggressive behavior and mood swings

Blood lipid abnormalities that contribute to heart disease

Acne (or a worsening of acne)

Increased breast growth in males, especially teens

Irreversible stretch marks

A heightened tendency for hair loss and male-pattern baldness
Muscle aches


Is that enough or do you need more ?????

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

also correct me if I'm wrong but he's asking if someone young with a lot of natty test took a smaller amount then a 30 year old on a regular dose, then it would be the same thing, but it won't be the same b/c you shut down ur natty test when u take artificial test, so the extra natty test u have at 18/19 will be non existant on your extra low dose cycle

[flex.w]

So we are gonna get the definition? wtf dukk? haha

the defenition is that this forum is ver Clarifying,in portugal the word is very similar and we use it a lot thats why i said it...

[sigman roid]

listen to the t mos he knows what he is talking about the advice you get is for your own good it may not be what you want to hear but at 18 no one should be giving you advice on what cycles to do you have got alot more natural growing to do.

[Probably]

Just sayin' my plates were closed since i was 16

[flex.w]

well , you missed my point there.

Would you rather risk losing a low amount of your natural test from being shut down and not returning when you are an older age and your natural test is ALREADY LOW,

OR

Would you rather be at the PEAK of your natural hormone production and shut that down risking it not coming back up to the HIGH levels that is was before???


In older adults whose test is already on the DECLINE, the possibility of TRT for life isn't as bad as being 18 and having to go on TRT for life adn having to worry about all the other health problems that can come with that. Such as:

Stunted growth in teens (by causing bones to mature too fast and stop growing at an early age)

Liver tumors

Abnormal enlargement of the heart muscles

Violent, aggressive behavior and mood swings

Blood lipid abnormalities that contribute to heart disease

Acne (or a worsening of acne)

Increased breast growth in males, especially teens

Irreversible stretch marks

A heightened tendency for hair loss and male-pattern baldness
Muscle aches


Is that enough or do you need more ?????

i understood your point at first,like i said im not thinking of taking steroids i just want to clear some doubts,and i couldnt agree more with you and you maked me see things in a way that i wasnt seeing.thanks for your time man

[flex.w]

my other point was beacause i hear a lot of people sayin to teens like me quotes like this"dont use steroids now because your levels of test are at the top of their natural production"but i think the reasons they shouldnt use are the ones that t-mos said because a lot of charts say that you have more testosterone in the age of example 25 than at the age of 18 and i see a lot of guys with 25 and no one gives them those advices.im ver confused and i dont know if anyone is getting my point?

[Probably]

i get your point.. but Anyway at 25 most of ur body system's growth are done .. while at 18 , u cant be sure about it .. so for the 25 old guy .. if he add test, so what .. he is on the line of declination .. in a year or 2 his test levels will go down, while u at 18 .. in a year or 2 .. u should still be in peak levels

[flex.w]

there is no way that can guarantee that your natty levels can return to normal?i was thinking in making my first cycle at 21 but if it closes our natural test and if theres no way after using roids that your natural test levels will come to normal,so i will have to wait like 10 years..

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

there is no way that can guarantee that your natty levels can return to normal?i was thinking in making my first cycle at 21 but if it closes our natural test and if theres no way after using roids that your natural test levels will come to normal,so i will have to wait like 10 years..

of course theres no guarentee, that goes for anyone at any age.the only way to know what your levels are is get them tested by your doctor, before, after, and after PCT.

[flex.w]

of course theres no guarentee, that goes for anyone at any age.the only way to know what your levels are is get them tested by your doctor, before, after, and after PCT.

no matter what age the user have it can happen in all ages,the difference is that the youngst is the one with more to loose i understand it now ther will be a time when i will choose to use it, think i will just use it when i cant grow more,what age do you advice anyone to start using roids?24?