Cycle for a MMA Athlete?

[Deltasaurus]

Suggestions?
Goals: Lean out,maintaining Muscle and Strength

This means they're doing cardio all the time. Lifting and needing to Recover.Sparing...etc

So high water retention would be bad.

What would be good?
S-Drol
H-Drol
Winny?
Prop?
Susp?
Base?

plz dont say Drol LOL

[Deltasaurus]

cmon boys gimme sumthin

[*RAGE*]

VAR, i believe is the best so you dont go up to much in weight..

[*RAGE*]

I have talked to war about this in the past, and I believe he has the most experience on this matter......I did not cycle when I was fighting

[Immortal Soldier]

Who the **** isn't an MMA athlete these days, I swear it's like every dude in the world is an MMA fighter now-a-days.

[TRT,MAN]

not only that sum will fuvk up you cardio. i use to train mma, but never did juice. my last fight i had took alot out of me. year later i was diagnosed with low test. but i think it was quicidece. not sher if thats spelled right.

[Deltasaurus]

what i if have no access to var, i mean i might but i have Winny on hand.
And i get get any prohormones from GNC 35% off

[Deltasaurus]

Who the **** isn't an MMA athlete these days, I swear it's like every dude in the world is an MMA fighter now-a-days.

actaully I only do Jiu-jitsu but its a combat sport so its the same thing sorta

[TRT,MAN]

Who the **** isn't an MMA athlete these days, I swear it's like every dude in the world is an MMA fighter now-a-days.

hey your right lost of guys no in days train. not to bag on fellow fighters. but i started around 1994 when it was new people didnt even know about it back then. my days are over havent fought or trained in three years.

[*RAGE*]

what i if have no access to var, i mean i might but i have Winny on hand.
And i get get any prohormones from GNC 35% off

Winny will dry out your joints and it will make it hard for you to train IMO,

but if you go with with winny I would use at least 250mg of test ew, along with it...

[Deltasaurus]

so Var?

anyone else?

[Hazard]

i ran test E while I trained...... the only few fights i had i was off everything..... I would probably run test E but i don't hold much water to begin w/ and if i ran a-dex with it.... i'd be golden.

~Haz~

[stangmatt06]

how about Haloplex (Fluoxymesterone)?
"Athletes tend to use it to increase strength and aggression in the gym or in competitions such as strongman contests, fighting (like boxing, kickboxing, mixfight) or MMA. The lack of estrogenic activity makes Haloplex perfect for pre-fight use – as weigh-ins would not be effected by water retention."

[Immortal Soldier]

what i if have no access to var, i mean i might but i have Winny on hand.
And i get get any prohormones from GNC 35% off

Bro you have been here long enough to know Winny only cycles aren't good especially if you do sports that stuff will dry out your joints.

Pro-homrones from GNC? lol I mean they do carry LG Sciences brand like Methyl Masterdrol which is a Superdrol clone.

hey your right lost of guys no in days train. not to bag on fellow fighters. but i started around 1994 when it was new people didnt even know about it back then. my days are over havent fought or trained in three years.

I am telling you Tap Out Shirts and MMA is the new fad, if you aren't doing both you aren't "cool"

[Deltasaurus]

yeah i know i just wanted to ask.

[JiGGaMaN]

a tapout t-shirt.

[Deltasaurus]

how about Haloplex (Fluoxymesterone)?
"Athletes tend to use it to increase strength and aggression in the gym or in competitions such as strongman contests, fighting (like boxing, kickboxing, mixfight) or MMA. The lack of estrogenic activity makes Haloplex perfect for pre-fight use – as weigh-ins would not be effected by water retention."

anyone else on this one???
it sound like you work them lol

peopel use it for cutting i think

[Hazard]

I am telling you Tap Out Shirts and MMA is the new fad, if you aren't doing both you aren't "cool"

Man us big guys gotta train MMA..... now-a-days there are 5'0" 135lb Black belt brazilian jiu-jitsu masters walking down our local streets..... anyone of them will hand ur ass to you LOLOLOLOL - that'll be embarrassing. We're just keeping up with the times

~Haz~

[stangmatt06]

anyone else on this one???
it sound like you work them lol

peopel use it for cutting i think

I don't use AAS but like to read about a lot of the different products out there and Haloplex sounds like it is right up your ally for what you are looking for. The downfall is that it tends to be very toxic and has poor binding to the AR.

[Immortal Soldier]

Man us big guys gotta train MMA..... now-a-days there are 5'0" 135lb Black belt brazilian jiu-jitsu masters walking down our local streets..... anyone of them will hand ur ass to you LOLOLOLOL - that'll be embarrassing. We're just keeping up with the times

~Haz~

I am afraid I am going to walk in there and everyone be like "Damn look at that guy" than in 15 seconds I am going to get my ass kicked in front of everyone....

You know, thats all I am worried about, it would be embarrassing...

[Immortal Soldier]

a tapout t-shirt.

If I buy one, can I say I train MMA?

[thai-lan]

I dont think winstrol is good for joints especially when you train bjj , if i had to choose something ,id go with anavar or else nothing....

[Akrobatik]

Everyone seems to be in the MMA till they turn pro and get TKO'd on their first pro fight that ends in 45 seconds.

[Bjohnson]

Man us big guys gotta train MMA..... now-a-days there are 5'0" 135lb Black belt brazilian jiu-jitsu masters walking down our local streets..... anyone of them will hand ur ass to you LOLOLOLOL - that'll be embarrassing. We're just keeping up with the times

~Haz~

please

[DS21]

I mean they do carry LG Sciences brand like Methyl Masterdrol which is a Superdrol clone.

I've never heard someone compare Methyl Masterdrol to superdrol??

Methyl Masterdrol- 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one (100mg)

Superdrol- 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol (10mg)

I've tried them both and Superdrol rocks Methyl Masterdrol sucks, IMO.

[Immortal Soldier]

I've never heard someone compare Methyl Masterdrol to superdrol??

Methyl Masterdrol- 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one (100mg)

Superdrol- 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol (10mg)

I've tried them both and Superdrol rocks Methyl Masterdrol sucks, IMO.

That's Methyl Masterdrol V2, (i dont think the first one is made anymore yet I have seen it at GNC still be seeing sold) the first one was very comparable to SD, not exactly SD but it has the same proprieties it was considered a clone by many. But overall LG sciences is not a good company alot of their products are toxic and overpriced.

[LoneLifter]

I would say stick with something mild. I agree with the earlier post and go with VAR. This won't cause a lot of weight gain and the gains you do realize will be solid and relatively permanent.

[LoneLifter]

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[WARMachine]

I couldve seen where this thread was going...

Geez...

You know the answer AJ.

I dont like the winn. Especially when training BJJ. Stick with Var, and/or Test P at a moderate dose. -300mgs.

[senseicarr]

lol I know alot of people that just used HGH thats it

[KAEW44]

Bro i trained BJJ since 2001 and Muay Thai also and i have competed in amateur events many times. I never cycled i only used clenbuterol before and ephedrine because i just wanted to be ripped during those fights and both clen and ephedrine killed my performance because stimulant + fight-anxiety = out of gas in 5 seconds!!

MMA is a tough sports which requires you to be in awesome shape and strength and flexibility and endurance as well as very technical and strong mental.

Taking steroids will only push you back because they are not made for such a complex sport. Winstrol not only dries your joints but it will surely cause you to tear a ligament or tendon because the moves in MMA are very explosive and winstrol affects your ligaments and joints negatively i personally know a guy who snapped his hamstring using winstrol and that was pretty much the end of his MMA days.

Anavar has a posative effect on joints and its mild so it wont affect your weight much but also do some search and you will see many people get crazy pumps on anavar which is cool when your lifting weights, but not so cool when you have to do lots of cardio or any other exercise the pumps could turn into painful cramp like pumps.

Many of the prohormones you talk about cause lethargy and bad sides which also will affect you negatively in MMA.

But if we cant stop you and your gonna go for it anyway, then maybe you should consider a low dose mix of test+deca for maybe 12-16 weeks. Provided you arent getting tested, a light cycle of both of these will improve recovery and also the deca will help with the joints at low doses.

If you plan on turning pro though bro then you need to think about how you can improve your performance naturally and build your VO2 max over the years naturally, there really isnt a shortcut in this!

Added facts: more than 90% of MMA athletes who tested posative for steroids LOST their fights in which they got busted!

[JiGGaMaN]

If I buy one, can I say I train MMA?

yes, but only if you believe you do. The great thing about the shirt is that no one is bad ass enough to pick a fight with someone who is possibly a good mma fighter other than someone also wearing that shirt, but neither of you would call each other on it so its all good. Respect bro, respect.

[Immortal Soldier]

yes, but only if you believe you do. The great thing about the shirt is that no one is bad ass enough to pick a fight with someone who is possibly a good mma fighter other than someone also wearing that shirt, but neither of you would call each other on it so its all good. Respect bro, respect.

[Deltasaurus]

Well i can get Var anyone have experience rolling on var?

what are the typical sides on VAR?

[KAEW44]

Well i can get Var anyone have experience rolling on var?

what are the typical sides on VAR?

from recent threads it seems the new reputation for var is it strengthens your joints and ligaments/tendons it has a posative effect on collagen synthesis.

A typical bad effect is that people say the gains are very small on var compared with any other AAS

[Deltasaurus]

what about sides? ive really only heard pumps which can be good and bad anyone have any experience?

[Dukkit]

Var. or T-bol
to combat the "pumps" i take taurine and tums. helps keep the pumps to a minimum or else mine get so bad i cant move.

[Deltasaurus]

taurine that cheap OTC right?

only sides is Pumps??????

[HeavyHitter]

anything that doesnt weaken tendons...

deca, primo, EQ, Var, or growth. (Each with light test- no more then 200mg a wk)

[D7M]

taurine that cheap OTC right?

only sides is Pumps??????

there's no real sides to var, bro.

it's pretty mild.

sheesh.

like someone else said,

"you're boring me to death with your ju-jitsu crap"