How best do I use what I have???

[Hulk34]

Cheers all...

I've just gotten my hands on a few different compounds, and am after some feedback on what more experienced users think is the best way to combine them. This is by no means the first time I have used AAS, but I have never really had to worry about how to use what I have, because I've never had much beyond a bladder of enanthate and a bottle of winstrol.

First of all, a list of what I'm holding at the moment:

Test Propianate 75 (have about 60ml)
Deca 50 (have about 20ml)
Test LA 100 (100mg/ml cypionate, equiv 70mg/ml test?) (holding 20ml)
Tribolin (Nandrolone Deaconate 35mg/ml, Methandriol dipropionate 40mg/ml)

I can get my hands on more of the last three, but no more prop.

I have two main considerations in constructing a cycle:

The first is, I work in an environment which enforces a zero drug tolerance policy. Steroids included. I want to get big slowly. Not slow like a natural bodybuilder, just nothing too overt. I want to do a nice long cycle and slowly pack on the beef. This is, provided that there is a prevailing consensus that this can be done safely and effectively (considering the second consideration I will outline in a minute).

Developing this idea a little further, I have read that some users emply a technique by which they utilise Test at the beginning of a cycle, which the follow with a cycle of Tribolin or deca, the nandrolone working to harden a physique which might be holding some water after the test cycle.

Is this "stepping down" technique endorsed by the experienced users on the forum?. Would it make sense to combine the Test LA and Prop at the beginning of a cycle and then finish with Deca and Tribolin? how would you guys do it based on the requirement for a longer cycle?



OK... the second consideration (and my main area of concern)

PCT. I am making some enquiries, but I am not sure I am going to be able to acquire HCG. Any Aussies who read this and are aware of a reliable internet source, I'd love to hear from you via PM. I am very reluctant to hook in without a source of what I understand to be a key ingredient in a successful PCT. I have some nolva, and should be able to source more. The HCG is the sticking point. I don't really have the luxury of seeing a GP either. Again... my job makes that option a little more complicated than is normally the case.





Thanks in advance to any who read and offer an opinion or some advice in regards to structuring a cycle. To any Aussies that might know of a means by which someone can source some HCG (online) ...PM me and you will have my eternal gratitude.

Cheers Guys...

P.

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

we need some more information before we can advise you

age
height
weight
bodyfat%
diet
yrs training
Previous cycles, lengths,and doses
PCT for those cycles
PCT knowledge
Goals for this cycle

[Hulk34]

Wow... you guys are fast :-)

Age: 35
Height: 180cm
Weight: 103kg
Bodyfat: I'm not able to accurately measure right now, but I'd say roughly 15-17% based on previous levels and how I'm looking.

Diet: At the moment, as disciplined as I can be. I've been overseas a lot in the last year and had an erratic lifestyle, and Army food can be a bit lacking. Things are just about to settle... and as of next week I will be eating based roughly on the diet outlined here:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113010 (shaped to an intake of around 2700 calories per day).

Previous cycles: Have not really done a cycle in a long time... but I have traditionally used enanthate, cypionate or propianate. I've stacked with winstrol and dbol, but never the three at the same time (either test and winny or test and dbol).
Typically I would never exceed 450mg of test in a week, and during the cycle in which I had the most gear, 4 x the pink dbol tabs per day. I would typically start out with the test at a low dosage, work up to around 450mg/week and then start dumping the tabs. I'd come off the tabs and slowly taper down to come off the test.

When I started taking roids... that was PCT. A nice slow taper at the end of a cycle. Obviously the information age has changed that a little.. and now I've caught up with the rest of the world... though in practical experience, I have still only ever used nolva, and that was to come off the last two (short) cycles I've done. That was 1 x 20mg tab per day starting about two weeks after the cycle ended and maintained for a month.


Now I've read a bit more (hackskii has posted a thread which I found to be a good primer) on PCT, I am a lot more aware of what needs to happen to get my body functioning normally after I juice. So... I would say that my knowledge is a lot better.

Goals for this cycle?: Lean muscle mass. I don't want to build Rome in a day... I want to take a good 12-16 weeks to put on a few kg's of muscle. I want to do it in a way which minimises the disruption to my endocrine system, and is not overtly obvious to the beady eyes of the people who watch out for anybody who stands out at work.

Thanks in advance for your help.I wish the info I have provided could be a little better, but in all honesty... I have never really approached things with the level of awareness I should have, in the past.

Cheers...

P.