peachfuzz here...

[peachfuzz]

ok guys. tell me what you think. im gonna do things a little different this cycle so i want to see what you thought. id like to start my cycle under 10% as of right now im around 12% i was thinking of starting my cycle as a cutter for 6 weeks to drop some bodyfat and then transition into my bulk.

week 1-6
test e - 250mg/week
winstrol inj - 50mg ED

week 7-18
test e - 750mg/week shot 2x/week
deca - 400mg/week shot 2x/week
possibly tbol - 70mg ED for first 5 weeks

on hand i will have
-aromasin
-caber
-nolva
-clomid

before i start i plan on having some hcg and arimidex

this is my first run with a 19nor and dont want any gyno issues. my question is if i dont obtain the arimidex would aromasin be too strong to use on cycle even with 750mg of test? say 25mg ED or even 12.5 if i can cut them in half starting at week 7?

and........CRITIQUE!

[*RAGE*]

Ok so you are going to do a TRT with some winn then hope on a cycle, I would drop the winn run the whole 18 weeks on test-e 500mg and then add the deca for the first 14 to 16 week and if you did want the cut you should run it at the end, I would go with mast and not winn, the mast will do the same thing as arimidex plus build mass and give you the cut that winn does without the joint problems...

[*RAGE*]

so would something like this

1-18 500mg test e 250mg two times a week,
1-14 or 16 400mg of deca 200mg two times a week,
7 or 8 -18 mast 50mg or 75mg ed

then run your pct

clomid 100mg ed for two weeks then 50mg ed for two weeks
nolva 30mg ed for two weeks then 20mg ed for two weeks
arimidex .5mg ed for the four weeks, and if needed during cycle....

[*RAGE*]

I know you wanted to cut the first six weeks but dude it summer so bulk during the first part of your cycle and then cut down and get rock hard....all the above is JMO looks like you got you shit together bro.....

[stpete]

Why drop to 10% if you're going straight to a bulker? You're good at 12% imo.
Agree with what Prone put up there.

[peachfuzz]

i want to cut first because i hate bulking and then having to cut. its that much more i have to lose. and the leaner i start the better. plus summer is here and im not trying to look like a water baloon at the beach.

[*RAGE*]

i want to cut first because i hate bulking and then having to cut. its that much more i have to lose. and the leaner i start the better. plus summer is here and im not trying to look like a water baloon at the beach.

then bump the deca and run tren e instead, and still run the mast, once you start the deca you are going to look like that anyway....and it is the first part of summer.

If you cut for the first six weeks and then jump on the deca the cut you got will be gone IMO

[jbm]

Good Luck Peach!

[jimmyinkedup]

Eh id say but im just a nerd *LOL* ...
Seriously...forget the winny if im going to do it im ding it for visual benfits at lower body fat.,...i wouldnt waste it to cut on to immedaitely bulk .. not like u have a contest etc... JMO...
If gyno etc a concern with deca..i love the synergy of dht and 19 nor and think it aids in gyno prevention...consider running winny then .....with the deca /test....also id just get some adex..one way or another...why mess around.....it seems to provie a fantastic middle ground re : estrogen management..
All JMO ..good luck...

[Merc.]

so would something like this

1-18 500mg test e 250mg two times a week,
1-14 or 16 400mg of deca 200mg two times a week,
7 or 8 -18 mast 50mg or 75mg ed

then run your pctclomid 100mg ed for two weeks then 50mg ed for two weeks
nolva 30mg ed for two weeks then 20mg ed for two weeks
arimidex .5mg ed for the four weeks, and if needed during cycle....

Looks like a solid cycle ... I agree on the MAST .....


Merc.

[peachfuzz]

then bump the deca and run tren e instead, and still run the mast, once you start the deca you are going to look like that anyway....and it is the first part of summer.

If you cut for the first six weeks and then jump on the deca the cut you got will be gone IMO

true. not cutting for the visual benefits. just want to get a little leaner before i start but i feel stuck where i am at so i didnt want to up the cardio or cut the calories anymore without being on something.

Eh id say but im just a nerd *LOL* ...
Seriously...forget the winny if im going to do it im ding it for visual benfits at lower body fat.,...i wouldnt waste it to cut on to immedaitely bulk .. not like u have a contest etc... JMO...
If gyno etc a concern with deca..i love the synergy of dht and 19 nor and think it aids in gyno prevention...consider running winny then .....with the deca /test....also id just get some adex..one way or another...why mess around.....it seems to provie a fantastic middle ground re : estrogen management..
All JMO ..good luck...

this is what nerds are good for

ok ok how about cutting out the winnny and just running test by itself the first few weeks while dropping the cals a little lower. maybe with an ECA. then starting the deca. again cutting is not really for the visual aspect as much as i just want to start this bulking cycle as lean as possible to making trimming up that much easier when i decide to cut again.

as far as a DHT if i run one the whole cycle it sure as heck aint gonna be winny, between materon (enanthate) or primo which would you run? again not for the visual aspect.

and your right on the adex. its what i have always used just didnt want to have to pick that up when i already have everything else. but what the hell. no sense in half assing it.

also i have never ran more than 500mg of test a week. being this is my first cycle with 19nor should i just keep the test at 500 instead of upping to 750?

not trying to be stubborn about the cutting then bulking. i just know this cycle will take me through summer so ill be straight bulking through fall and winter. thats why i want to start out very lean.
people bulk then cut. whats wrong with cutting then bulking?

[jimmyinkedup]

true. not cutting for the visual benefits. just want to get a little leaner before i start but i feel stuck where i am at so i didnt want to up the cardio or cut the calories anymore without being on something.



this is what nerds are good for

ok ok how about cutting out the winnny and just running test by itself the first few weeks while dropping the cals a little lower. maybe with an ECA. then starting the deca. again cutting is not really for the visual aspect as much as i just want to start this bulking cycle as lean as possible to making trimming up that much easier when i decide to cut again.
I like that better
as far as a DHT if i run one the whole cycle it sure as heck aint gonna be winny, between materon (enanthate) or primo which would you run? again not for the visual aspect. Masteron IMO

and your right on the adex. its what i have always used just didnt want to have to pick that up when i already have everything else. but what the hell. no sense in half assing it.

also i have never ran more than 500mg of test a week. being this is my first cycle with 19nor should i just keep the test at 500 instead of upping to 750?
^^pretyy good idea...keep it at 500 imo....
not trying to be stubborn about the cutting then bulking. i just know this cycle will take me through summer so ill be straight bulking through fall and winter. thats why i want to start out very lean.
people bulk then cut. whats wrong with cutting then bulking?

Nothing wrong wit cutting then bulking in fact Marcus just posted in a thread about how your body is especially receptive after a cut and may tend to more easily put on muscle ....so i say go for it. Or course lets us know what cycle you decide on and keep us posted . Id like to see how this all works for you. Good Luck!

[chuckt12345]

id drop the winny

[peachfuzz]

ok so revised cycle is...

week 1-5
test e - 500mg/week
ECA stack

week 6-18
test e - 500mg/week shot 2x/week
masteron e - 400mg/week shot 2x/week

week6-17
deca - 400mg/week shot 2x/week

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ i like it...good luck and keep us posted bro!

[WARMachine]

Test + DHT + 19Nor = Ultimate Stack!

Youll love it brutha!

[peachfuzz]

ok cycle has changed. still look allright?

stats
6'5
155lbs
bf not sure?
training 6 months
bench 225 1rm
2 solid meals a day and 3 or 4 protein shakes
goal is to get huge

week 1-15
test e - 500mg/week

week 1-14
deca - 400mg/week shot 2x/week

week 1-17
proviron - 100mg ED

and either

week 12-17
anavar - 70mg ED

or

week 1-5
Tbol - 50mg ED

or both

on hand will be
caber
arimidex
nolva
clomid
HCG

[chuckt12345]

peach did you misprint that weight buddy?

[WARMachine]

Hes joking...

Whats the PCT look like you whore?

[chuckt12345]

haaa, i didnt even read the other shite on stats.

[peachfuzz]

Hes joking...

Whats the PCT look like you whore?

post cycle is the standard

Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

Hcg will start around the middle of the cycle maybe a little later and i will run 250IU every 3 days dropping a week before post cycle.

also have aromasin if you think that would make a decent addition to post cycle?

[WARMachine]

If youre not running an AI on cycle, then yeah, add the Aromasin.

[Juice Authority]

Test + DHT + 19Nor = Ultimate Stack!

Youll love it brutha!

+ dbol

[Reed]

+ dbol

+GH and slin


naaa jk for this little guy peachfuzz its still less drugs more diet and training.

[Juice Authority]

+GH and slin

+ IGF-1. Now we're talking.

Test + DHT + 19Nor + dbol + GH + slin + IGF-1 = $$$$$ = The Super-Ultimate Stack.

[Reed]

^^^^ Yeah if anyone can have get real IGF-1 and not that LR-3 junk that the vets have now been bashing

[Juice Authority]

^^^^ Yeah if anyone can have get real IGF-1 and not that LR-3 junk that the vets have now been bashing

Tell me about it. I wasted over $500 on LR-3 and got nothing from it and that was at 80-100mcgs/ed too!

[Swifto]

^^^^ Yeah if anyone can have get real IGF-1 and not that LR-3 junk that the vets have now been bashing

Very hard to get now.

LRshit isnt. Nothing but a GDA.

[Reed]

Tell me about it. I wasted over $500 on LR-3 and got nothing from it and that was at 80-100mcgs/ed too!

Sucks glad I wasn't in the game yet where I was trying the last and greatest thing only to waste $$$$$


What peptide I wanna know about now is MGF??? Studies, first hand accounts as well.

I know the growth hormone releasing peptides work for sure but what about that one.

anyway better not get off track here. About to go hit up the back.


Later.

[ninesecz]

why so high on the Test (750mg ew) ?/ Seems a little steep

[peachfuzz]

If youre not running an AI on cycle, then yeah, add the Aromasin.

probably start a low dose adex when i begin the hcg

+GH and slin


naaa jk for this little guy peachfuzz its still less drugs more diet and training.

ummm....did you not see my diet i posted. your stupid and you dont know anything. so keep your stupid comments to yourself. stupid. my diet is perfect.

why so high on the Test (750mg ew) ?/ Seems a little steep

actually dropped it to 500

[Reed]

ummm....did you not see my diet i posted. your stupid and you dont know anything. so keep your stupid comments to yourself. stupid. my diet is perfect.

more drugs at extremely high doses, less diet and no training

[Juice Authority]

What peptide I wanna know about now is MGF??? Studies, first hand accounts as well.

I know some Bros taking it. I'll get their feedback.

[Reed]

I know some Bros taking it. I'll get their feedback.

Please, hit me with a PM if need be. thanks

[Juice Authority]

ok cycle has changed. still look allright?

stats
6'5
155lbs
bf not sure?
training 6 months
bench 225 1rm
2 solid meals a day and 3 or 4 protein shakes
goal is to get huge

week 1-15
test e - 500mg/week

week 1-14
deca - 400mg/week shot 2x/week

week 1-17
proviron - 100mg ED

and either

week 12-17
anavar - 70mg ED

or

week 1-5
Tbol - 50mg ED

or both

on hand will be
caber
arimidex
nolva
clomid
HCG

Couple/few of things here. You don't need to shoot Deca 2x/wk. Secondly, too long of a cycle. Third, too much Proviron relative to Test (50mgs/ed should suffice).

[Juice Authority]

Please, hit me with a PM if need be. thanks

Let me get the facts first. There have been some mixed views so far but there are couple of guys that I know have the real deal so I'll check with them first.

[peachfuzz]

Couple/few of things here. You don't need to shoot Deca 2x/wk. Secondly, too long of a cycle. Third, too much Proviron relative to Test (50mgs/ed should suffice).

your right. nor do i the test. but it is optimal

no such thing as too long

noted, but whats it gonna hurt?

[peachfuzz]

damn you whores in my thread! :

[Reed]

this will be moved to the lounge should have just put it there any way fuzz.