Second Cycle

[Jonseyy]

I ran a cycle of straight Test E 600mg a week for 12 weeks and was happy with results.

I am 22, 200lbs, 6ft 1in, im guesing around 14% BF.

I am looking in starting a 2nd cycle with a little more "juice" then the first one.

Just looking for suggestions really I am going to stick with the base 500mg of Test E a week but not sure on what else to run was thinking possibly tren. What I am basically looking for is to bulk up as much as possible....size does matter.

Any suggestions appreciated thanks

[LickAlotOfPuss]

trenbolone and Dbol for bulk tren has some crazy sides thought ptc 2 weeks before you start your cycle

[T-MOS]

Tren is NOT to be used for beginners....I would do 5-7 cycles before using tren JMHO

The compounds kind of depend on your goals

If your looking to bulk, I would do Test/Deca
If your looking to cut, I would do Test with winny the last 6 weeks

How long has it been since your first cycle was over ? how long and what was your PCT? When were you planning to start your next cycle?

[T-MOS]

trenbolone and Dbol for bulk tren has some crazy sides thought ptc 2 weeks before you start your cycle

Please explain what you mean by "ptc 2 weeks BEFORE you start your cycle"??

[lovbyts]

Please explain what you mean by "ptc 2 weeks BEFORE you start your cycle"??

I think someone was drunk when they posted that.

Im sure he mean PCT 2 weeks After cycle I hope...

Maybe he is dyslexic

[HIITB$]

Please explain what you mean by "ptc 2 weeks BEFORE you start your cycle"??

That boggled me as well, glad im not the only one lol

[Jonseyy]

Tren is NOT to be used for beginners....I would do 5-7 cycles before using tren JMHO

The compounds kind of depend on your goals

If your looking to bulk, I would do Test/Deca
If your looking to cut, I would do Test with winny the last 6 weeks

How long has it been since your first cycle was over ? how long and what was your PCT? When were you planning to start your next cycle?

Deffinately looking to bulk....talking to a few different people I have been told what you said Test/Deca. Also been told sust/EQ as a cycle just wondering your opinions on it.

And been about 10weeks now since last cycle and planning to start next one within a week or 2

[_CrossroadS_]

Please go to the doctor, have blood tests run, and give us feedback on where your hormone levels are at.

Did you do PCT after your last cycle?

Does your weiner work?

[Jonseyy]

Nolva 20mg/ED
Trib

And my wiener works as well as it has since I was 17 lol

didnt have any bad sides or anything as well just looking for a bit more bulk

[T-MOS]

FIRST, you need MORE time OFF of your cylce............. TIME OFF = TIME ON + PCT TIME so if you did a 12 week cycle and a 4 week PCT then you need to be OFF for at least 16 weeks OR get bloodwork done

test/deca.....or ....... sust/eq ?????

well first TEST IS TEST, and I prefer SINGLE ester over multi but thats JMHO

and personally I would go Test/Deca for mass

[Jonseyy]

FIRST, you need MORE time OFF of your cylce............. TIME OFF = TIME ON + PCT TIME so if you did a 12 week cycle and a 4 week PCT then you need to be OFF for at least 16 weeks OR get bloodwork done

test/deca.....or ....... sust/eq ?????

well first TEST IS TEST, and I prefer SINGLE ester over multi but thats JMHO

and personally I would go Test/Deca for mass

Ok cool so I just took a look at the calendar and im week 11 so 5 to go then, and I think I am going to go with Test/Deca just from reading different post from other users. I just like to get everything together instead of last minute just feels better I guess to be prepared. Now as for dosages what is your suggestion and PCT since this is a little more than my last cycle should I go with clomid and nolva this time?

[T-MOS]

Ok cool so I just took a look at the calendar and im week 11 so 5 to go then, and I think I am going to go with Test/Deca just from reading different post from other users. I just like to get everything together instead of last minute just feels better I guess to be prepared. Now as for dosages what is your suggestion and PCT since this is a little more than my last cycle should I go with clomid and nolva this time?

You will never learn if I hand feed you.

How about you doing a little more research and come back to me with a proposed cycle, lengths and doses, and PCT, then I will help you tweek it if needed

i will give you a hint.....you should have used clomid AND nolva on your first cycle too........

[Jonseyy]

You will never learn if I hand feed you.

How about you doing a little more research and come back to me with a proposed cycle, lengths and doses, and PCT, then I will help you tweek it if needed

i will give you a hint.....you should have used clomid AND nolva on your first cycle too........

I have a few different cycles written down I will post the one I think I am going to do as for the PCT yes I know I should of done them both like I said before I like having everything in advance now for a reason becuase of what happened last cycle and was unable to get a proper PCT and yes I know is a bad thing and will not let it happen again....when get home will post the cycle I have recorded

[Jonseyy]

Week 1-12: 500mgs Test E
Week 1-11: 400mgs Deca

Week 15-17: Clomid Day 1 300mg Day 2-11 100mg Day12-21 50mg
Week 15-17 Nolva 20mg/day

Is the cycle I was thinking as for concentration of the products I am able to get either 250/ml or 400/ml test so any advice on that would be appreciated as well.