need help please

[chadstud]

ok, i have been working out for a while and i have hit a wall. i bought somatropinne, pituitary growth hormone, the following are from Edited, winn, clen, and tren. and im taking mitotrpoin and amp protein. im 6'0 193 pounds. will any of the stuff i've boughten actually work? what else should i buy?

[jbm]

age?
body fat%

[chadstud]

im 20. and idk my body fat. i can tell u im not fat though. probably 15-20%

[c-Z]

A. to young for steroids.
B. That stuff is garbage.

[chadstud]

A. to young for steroids.
B. That stuff is garbage.

if its garbage, what do u suggest

[c-Z]

That stuff is not REAL Steroids. i suggest not rushing into things. Educate and give it a couple more years.

Do a google search on it. See what kind of reviews you get.

[chadstud]

That stuff is not REAL Steroids. i suggest not rushing into things. Educate and give it a couple more years.

Do a google search on it. See what kind of reviews you get.

ive done a little research, some people say it works, some people say it doesn't. i know they aren't roids. im just tryin to find something to help me get what muscle i have ****** up

[chadstud]

******* means toned

[illwillogical]

You're not bad size, you look pretty good in your avy. I would just try to eat more and you'll grow like a weed. Steroids at your age is not such a good idea, although there are a lot of younger guys that do it, most of them don't know what they are in for in the long run starting so young.

[c-Z]

Work on it naturally. Get your diet in check now. It's garbage. i'm telling you. Google it. And when u can PM me. I will explain in further detail since I cant over open forums.

[chadstud]

You're not bad size, you look pretty good in your avy. I would just try to eat more and you'll grow like a weed. Steroids at your age is not such a good idea, although there are a lot of younger guys that do it, most of them don't know what they are in for in the long run starting so young.

i tried eatin more but i just get fat, ha

[Big]

i tried eatin more but i just get fat, ha

you have to eat the right things, not just eat more.

[warchild]

your diet is wrong then bro

[c-Z]

Eating the wrong foods man..... post your diet on up

[illwillogical]

Do cardio, cut down on the beer and fried foods that a lot of guy's your age do, although I don't know if that is one of your issues?

[chadstud]

i eat alot of grilled chicken and steak. i dont drink any soda's anymore. bout 8 glasses of water a day. i try and stay away from fried food. mostly whatever i eat is grilled meat maybe accompanied by bread like a sandwich

[c-Z]

!!!

[chadstud]

i dont drink too much beer maybe 4 or five every other weekend

[c-Z]

Post up your diet breakdown for the day..... from each time and how much.

[illwillogical]

Well if you're serious dabble around the diet section here. In there you can learn how to split up your macros ie: carbs, protein, fats. Also you can get and estimate on your calorie expenditure and figure out how many calories that you need. It's really hard for someone your age to follow a strict diet, because I'm sure you are always on the go.

[chadstud]

breakfast at 7:15 was three waffles. usually its raisin bran. lunch at 11:30 was grilled chicken from kfc. had 4 peices of ham at 3 and a piece of grilled chicken at 5:00, then steak at 7:30

[chadstud]

o yea water with all those meals except the steak i had a glass of whole milk

[c-Z]

Thats a diet? Heres a quick example before I head to bed:

Meal 1: Pro/Carb 8am
10 Egg Whites,1 cup oatmeal
38g protein / 41g carbs / 4g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat 10am
Lean Protein (meat),green veggies,115g (cooked weight) potatoes,brown rice or brown pasta.
42g protein / 81g carbs / 15g fat

Meal 3: pre-workout 12noon
1 1/2 Scoops Whey Protein / 60g (cooked weight) of brown rice.
30g protein / 54g carbs / 0g fat

1pm workout

Post workout whey protein shake

Meal 4: Pro/Fat
1.5 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies+ 75g (cooked weight) white potatoes.
45g protein / 54g carbs / 13g Fat

Meal 5: Pro/Carb
Chicken Breast, 3/4 cup Brown Rice (uncooked weight)
42g protein / 47g carbs / 3g Fat

Meal 6: PPWO
Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, 1/2 cup Brown Rice (uncooked weight)
38g protein / 75g carbs / 3g fat

Meal 7: Pro/Fat
Lean Protein, 1.5 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
38g protein / 4g carbs / 14g fat

Meal 8: Before Bed
2 1/2 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil
45g protein / 3g carbs / 16g Fat

[HIITB$]

o yea water with all those meals except the steak i had a glass of whole milk

Its not so much about what foods you're eating when you get to sticking point but the value of your food (macros) you need to know how many carbs you're eating, fats, proteins etc...to be able to adjust your diet like you need. Sounds like you're eating "clean" which is good and more than most do but you should pay more attention to your diet though IMO.

AAS are not a bad idea WHEN you're ready but you have a lot more researching to do and learning before you do so you dont mess yourself up instead of benefiting from them!
ju know?

[chadstud]

Thats a diet? Heres a quick example before I head to bed:

Meal 1: Pro/Carb 8am
10 Egg Whites,1 cup oatmeal
38g protein / 41g carbs / 4g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat 10am
Lean Protein (meat),green veggies,115g (cooked weight) potatoes,brown rice or brown pasta.
42g protein / 81g carbs / 15g fat

Meal 3: pre-workout 12noon
1 1/2 Scoops Whey Protein / 60g (cooked weight) of brown rice.
30g protein / 54g carbs / 0g fat

1pm workout

Post workout whey protein shake

Meal 4: Pro/Fat
1.5 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies+ 75g (cooked weight) white potatoes.
45g protein / 54g carbs / 13g Fat

Meal 5: Pro/Carb
Chicken Breast, 3/4 cup Brown Rice (uncooked weight)
42g protein / 47g carbs / 3g Fat

Meal 6: PPWO
Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, 1/2 cup Brown Rice (uncooked weight)
38g protein / 75g carbs / 3g fat

Meal 7: Pro/Fat
Lean Protein, 1.5 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
38g protein / 4g carbs / 14g fat

Meal 8: Before Bed
2 1/2 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil
45g protein / 3g carbs / 16g Fat

your diet kills mine.
see thats my deal idk wtf im doin i just eat right (i thought) and work out

[jbm]

Thats a diet? Heres a quick example before I head to bed:

Meal 1: Pro/Carb 8am
10 Egg Whites,1 cup oatmeal
38g protein / 41g carbs / 4g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat 10am
Lean Protein (meat),green veggies,115g (cooked weight) potatoes,brown rice or brown pasta.
42g protein / 81g carbs / 15g fat

Meal 3: pre-workout 12noon
1 1/2 Scoops Whey Protein / 60g (cooked weight) of brown rice.
30g protein / 54g carbs / 0g fat

1pm workout

Post workout whey protein shake

Meal 4: Pro/Fat
1.5 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies+ 75g (cooked weight) white potatoes.
45g protein / 54g carbs / 13g Fat

Meal 5: Pro/Carb
Chicken Breast, 3/4 cup Brown Rice (uncooked weight)
42g protein / 47g carbs / 3g Fat

Meal 6: PPWO
Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, 1/2 cup Brown Rice (uncooked weight)
38g protein / 75g carbs / 3g fat

Meal 7: Pro/Fat
Lean Protein, 1.5 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
38g protein / 4g carbs / 14g fat

Meal 8: Before Bed
2 1/2 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil
45g protein / 3g carbs / 16g Fat

[jbm]

your diet kills mine.
see thats my deal idk wtf im doin i just eat right (i thought) and work out

Now! just follow that diet then keep on working out and rest well... then do a cycle when you are ready and old enough. research as of the moment!

[c-Z]

Diet is definitely lacking.... Waffles, rasin bran, kfc chicken..... its just not enough...... let alone proper foods........ go get some chicken breasts, tuna, oats, greens....... You will fidn yourself eating similar shit day in and day out.... but its what you have to do to make sure you are maintaining proper amount.

[c-Z]

Not my diet....... Mine Is somewhat similar. I stole it from another post alright....

[time 4 a *CHANGE*]

you should go to the diet forum. they will help. you will be able to have a diet like what cheverolet posted. not the exact #s of protein carbs or fat but that amount for your body.

[chadstud]

what is the "old enough age"

[jbm]

what is the "old enough age"

at least 25. IMO!

[jbm]

Not my diet....... Mine Is somewhat similar. I stole it from another post alright....

[chadstud]

thanks guys i preciate the help tremendously, i will change my diet. later

[c-Z]

at least 25. IMO!

Cough yeah.... err 25......

[jbm]

thanks guys i preciate the help tremendously, i will change my diet. later

[Free Will]

that is one good f&&%%ng diet chev
mine consists of

meal one :1 cup of oats
185grm tuna on wholemeal bread
an apple

meal 2 : rice cakes with ricoota cheese
an apple
100grms of fresh fish fillet , whatever i have in the freezer that week

meal 3 :chicken breast grilled
sweet potato
broccoli
jasmine rice ( i know its not brown but i cant stand the taste of brown rice )

meal 4: 2 scoops of WPI a
a small bowl of angel hair spaghetti with olive oil
an apple ( preworkout )

meal 5 : 2 scoops of WPI , a tablespoon of peanut butter in with my shake , skim milk
sweet potato with jasmine rice
185 grm tuna

meal 6:
300grm rump steak
mashed potato
broccoli
beans

meal 7: an apple
cottage cheese on some rice crackers
2 scoops of WPI with skim milk


now im not sure of the exact amount of carbs and protein but i know it works for me

[HIITB$]

that is one good f&&%%ng diet chev
mine consists of

meal one :1 cup of oats
185grm tuna on wholemeal bread
an apple

meal 2 : rice cakes with ricoota cheese
an apple
100grms of fresh fish fillet , whatever i have in the freezer that week

meal 3 :chicken breast grilled
sweet potato
broccoli
jasmine rice ( i know its not brown but i cant stand the taste of brown rice )

meal 4: 2 scoops of WPI a
a small bowl of angel hair spaghetti with olive oil
an apple ( preworkout )

meal 5 : 2 scoops of WPI , a tablespoon of peanut butter in with my shake , skim milk
sweet potato with jasmine rice
185 grm tuna

meal 6:
300grm rump steak
mashed potato
broccoli
beans

meal 7: an apple
cottage cheese on some rice crackers
2 scoops of WPI with skim milk


now im not sure of the exact amount of carbs and protein but i know it works for me

How much have you gained off that and how long you been on that diet? What did you start at because in your Avi you're about average so im guessing you're a really smaall guy to start with?

[lovbyts]

breakfast at 7:15 was three waffles. usually its raisin bran. lunch at 11:30 was grilled chicken from kfc. had 4 peices of ham at 3 and a piece of grilled chicken at 5:00, then steak at 7:30

OK start reading the diet section. Forget the special K stuff. LOL
Take the advise from here, read, learn. The wall you hit is only about 4 ft high, you can easily jump over it with only a little training.

[Free Will]

i have been on that diet for 12 months and i have gained 15kg , i was always a skinny kid but at 27 yrs old now i am 98kg with around 13 to 15 % bf