unsure of cyle been given by friend

[untamedstylist]

hi there guys im pretty new to this and am a tad unsure of the cycle ive been given from a friend please could i have ur feedbacks thanks......

i need to lose a fair bit of body fat and want to also slighttly bulk in particular areas due to having a huge barrel chest....

the course i have been given is mainly for cutting with a tad of bulking....

my aime is to bulk my shoulders, neck, arms and lats and of course my legs to balance out my chest

below is my course.....

Testosterone enanthate: 500mg a week
trenbolone enanthate: 200mg a week
Winstrol "Demazolol": 50mg per day = 350mg a week
clembuterol: 3 weeks on 3 weeks off at 2-3 tabs a day

i have a very good high protien low carb diet and hit the gym every night with specific muscle groups,
i do 30 mins cardio every day and an ab work out every night....

any feedback would be gratefull appreciated


thanks very much

[Big]

Age?
Height?
Weight?
Body fat%?
Years training?
Planned pct?

[untamedstylist]

age: 25
height: 5'9,
weight: 15.5st,
body fat: 29% roughly
yrs training.... about 5

[Big]

You need to diet and cardio till you're under 15%bf, in my opinion. In your present condition you will be much more likely to have estrogen related sides, blood pressure issues, etc.

[KAEW44]

you should lose more fat before you do a cycle, at 29% bodyfat your diet isnt 100% in check you should look into the diet without using any cycles.

When your bf is very low it is better to start a cycle, this is because with such a cycle you will gain water weight and some fat wether you like it or not, it will take a toll on your blood pressure and other factors.

I would advise lose more bodyfat naturall before you start this cycle, or do clen only cycles to drop the bodyfat and when you are at under 15% bf then you can consider the cycle.

[untamedstylist]

well now im 2 weeks in my cycle what do i do if this is true?

[Dancer]

well now im 2 weeks in my cycle what do i do if this is true?

Regardless of what you are or are not on you gotta eat/lift/sleep right...

Do you anything on hand for pct?

[untamedstylist]

my friend said this would cut me up! and the only thing that could make me put on weight would be the test..... should i reduce the test levels? im 2 weeks into the course and am working very very hard...... i may well be lower than 29% body fat more around the 20% mark

[untamedstylist]

am am eating , sleeping and lifting right just wanted to know the effects this stuff would have on me! i do have stuff for eastrageon but most of what i am taking is anti.......

thanks very much for ur feedback so far all valued and gratefully recieved!

[Big]

So you don't have a pct planned?

[chuckt12345]

actually the cycle recommedation is not to bad,, specially the way this thread title started. Its just very advanced cycle for a beginner.

[Dancer]

If you just stop you are just gonna crash...

You need PCT planned out

You gotta get anti estrogens

Read and post your diet in the diet area...

Thats best I can think of

[Misery13]

So you don't have a pct planned?

IMO follow big's advice...you need to stop your cycle...conduct PCT and then diet-cardio-train your BF down then restart your cycle with a planned PCT...

[Big]

Also while lining up your pct, drop by a gym and have your bf measured. The difference between 20 and 29 is more than it sounds like, we can't accurately advise without knowing more about you.

[chuckt12345]

yea BF is all over the board with people,, some guy posted a few days ago sayin he was 25% he thinks,, post pic hes like 12%

[Bio-boosted]

You better have some PCT meds.. if not you'd better get them right away.

[ninesecz]

IS THIS YOUR 1ST CYCLE??? IF so you should be going nowhere near Tren E!!! If you keep using thast without knowing the side affects you might get....you could end up with 4-6 weeks of horrible horrible life!!! These guys on here will back me up!! Tren is NO Joke and you should always use Tren A first to see if you have sides before using tren E

[untamedstylist]

my friend said he'll get me that stuff later as ive only just started it and have 10 weeks to go yet.... what will happen if i continue my cycle being my diet, sleep and lefting is good!
nothing im taking should really be making me put on weight its nearly all cutting

[alpmaster]

Are you fat as hell? 29% BF is pretty freakin fat, post a pic. To be honest, you're probably not that high. If you are, then yeah, get some PCT meds as soon as possible and stop.

[untamedstylist]

i have anti eastrogen but not taken it yet waiting to show symptoms first....

and will get pct meds when needed as have a few dealers!

[untamedstylist]

2 mins ill find a picture!

[Mase33]

Why didnt you try and do some research for yourself before you started a cycle. if you would have you would have found out that with your stats there is no way in hell you should have started a cycle because clearly your diet and training are shit. cracks me up how people think gear is the miracle to all there image problems. fat people think it will make them skinny and skinny people think it will make them huge.
now that your into a cycle that you shouldn't be the first thing you will want to do is go and smack your friend in the face. then get some pct....ASAP

[untamedstylist]

actually i used to be 22st..... im now 15.............. im pretty lean but have excess skin around the stomach which im trying to get rid of and am trying to get big in the right areas to compensate my big barrel chest if u didnt already read that.... im not trying to get skinny and im not trying to get huge either! my training and diet are very good thankyou! ive put up a pic but dont know how u guys see it

[untamedstylist]

im trying to build more muscle to fill the loose skin and lower body fat as every body wants too these days

[Mase33]

actually i used to be 22st..... im now 15.............. im pretty lean but have excess skin around the stomach which im trying to get rid of and am trying to get big in the right areas to compensate my big barrel chest if u didnt already read that.... im not trying to get skinny and im not trying to get huge either! my training and diet are very good thankyou! ive put up a pic but dont know how u guys see it

so far in this thread you have gone from 29% bf to 20% bf and now you are down to 15% bf. why dont you just keep this thread open for another hour and you will be below 6% bf with some ****** up abs.

[chuckt12345]

so far in this thread you have gone from 29% bf to 20% bf and now you are down to 15% bf. why dont you just keep this thread open for another hour and you will be below 6% bf with some ****** up abs.

? you need to read a little clearer

[untamedstylist]

i used to be 22st..... im now 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that means im now 15 st.... not 15% bf!!!!

[Satva1100]

so far in this thread you have gone from 29% bf to 20% bf and now you are down to 15% bf. Why dont you just keep this thread open for another hour and you will be below 6% bf with some ****** up abs.

he said 15 stone not 15%bf

[untamedstylist]

chuckt12345... thankyou for being intelligent enough to correct someone whilst they run thier mouth!

what are ur opinions my friend?

i have posted a picture for my profile, can u guys see it?

[Mase33]

age: 25
height: 5'9,
weight: 15.5st,
body fat: 29% roughly
yrs training.... about 5

isnt this what you told big at 9:50 a.m. when he asked you for your stats?

[untamedstylist]

thanks satva!

[Mase33]

why wouldnt you put 15% if you are 15%. why did you put 29%

[chuckt12345]

why wouldnt you put 15% if you are 15%. why did you put 29%

dude he said 15 stones not 15% BF,, stone is a weight measurment

[untamedstylist]

yes then i corrected myself and said i was around %20,,,,, people make mistakes! i corrected it once i didnt keep lowering it like u insinuated i was!

basically guys like i have said i have some body fat not a great deal but some loose skin i am trying to fill! im pretty lean and wanting to fill up and buiild out! not expected and mirricles but promoted growth.... will this cycle i am doing do the job?

[Mase33]

if i misunderstood i am sorry. i am a little irritable right now. i waiting on my gear to arrive.

[chuckt12345]

chuckt12345... thankyou for being intelligent enough to correct someone whilst they run thier mouth!

what are ur opinions my friend?

i have posted a picture for my profile, can u guys see it?

no i cant

[Big]

We need a better pic, you are covering your midsection there but the bf does look high to me.

[chuckt12345]

wierd,, i dont see any pic in profile

[Big]

It's not his avatar, you have to click his user name, he put a pic in his profile. Would be easier to just post it into this thread...

[untamedstylist]

how do i do that if the pic is on my computer not on the net