First Cycle Test Prop

[alphadog]

This will be my first cycle. Been working out hard for 3 years. I'm 23 years old 6'1 185 right now with my body fat right at 10% probably under, i'm real lean I run 5 days a week every morning. In the winter time I was up to 197lbs still with abs but I cut down now and lost a lot of mass, but i'm covered in lines now. My diet is good and my metabolism is GREAT. I've gone through these phases of thinking about juicin up and now i'm finally ready to say go. I plan on running 150mg EOD of Testaplex P 100 for 12 weeks. I'm not sweating the pain so much as I can handle it for the benefits, I don't mind needles, and will probably end up injecting myself after I watch and learn from my advisor. I get pimples on my face and here and there on my back or chest. I am mostly worried about getting acne and gyno. What should my PCT look like? I've done my reading but am still confused about how u guys throw around PCT. Nolvadex and Clomid are available to me. I'll also go with HCG at 500IU/day for a week before my PCT. Please don't just tell me to keep reading, like I said I have read up and am just confused like some say run it during the cycle and some 3 days after my last shot of the PROP. I'll take any advice... THANKS

[GetTheRage]

You might wanna start at 100mg eod.
Having arimidex on hand can be good to deal with sides.
I would run the nolva clomid pct

[ninesecz]

Nolvadex day after last injection 40mg / 40mg /20mg /20mg

Clomid 100mg /50mg/ 50mg /50mg

Weeks 1/2/3/4

[alphadog]

Nolvadex day after last injection 40mg / 40mg /20mg /20mg

Clomid 100mg /50mg/ 50mg /50mg

Weeks 1/2/3/4

Thanks buddy... 100mg/day for week 1 50mg/day week 2 so on.....?

[alphadog]

Is the HCG necessary??

What sides is the arimidex good for ??

[TractionIssues]

You don't need 100 ED for your first test run, Prop is slightly more concetrated than say long esters like enanthate, and that would make it 700mg/week, which is not necessary. 75mg/ED comes out to 525mg/weel, which is perfect and even more than enough. Try it out at 75mg/ED first and see how you respond to it first.

HCG is not necessary but it does help you recover faster when you finish your cycle and helps reduce testicular atrophy on cycle.

As for Arimidex it is used to control estrogen sides, like bloating, gyno, etc. But you should really read up and completely understand everything that surrounds PCT and AI's (Aromatase Inhibitors) before you start your cycle, not to mention having everything all your equipment in hand before starting.

This is a good thread to learn about PCT etc...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916

[TractionIssues]

Opps just saw I miss read, I thought I read 100 ED, but it's written EOD, this is fine. But I would recommend ED, you will get better results and less sides, more stable blood levels etc...

[alphadog]

Opps just saw I miss read, I thought I read 100 ED, but it's written EOD, this is fine. But I would recommend ED, you will get better results and less sides, more stable blood levels etc...

Less sides!!!!! better results!!! I love it!!!! I never read that before... No problem ED

[TractionIssues]

Yep injecting ANYTHING ED is the best way to do it, even if it's a long ester, only thing is most people don't like to pin, so that is why they use them. But IMO if your not a pvssy, GO ED!

[alphadog]

Can't wait!!!! Gonna post before and after pics for sure

[Chev]

Keep in mind test P is the most painful. I remember when i first started it i could barely walk some days. You may need to buy some oil down the road to mix with it if it gets to bad. ED injections helped for me, you shoot less at one time. Good luck man!!

[alphadog]

Yeah i'm doin ED injections and am gonna cut it with grapeseed oil.. how much grapeseed oil should i add if i'm injecting 75mg of Prop???

[ninesecz]

yeh bro I stopped my first cycle of test p after 4 weeks I only do glute injections and after the 3rd week i decided since i was having trouble getting in and out of my vehicle i hurt so bad to just say Funk This!! I only use E or Cyp... same results less pinning less pain and yes on the question about the clomid and nolva each slash is the mg for that week! some say ypou can go 100/50/50/50 with the clomid if you so choose!

[HIITB$]

If you're planning on pinning ED or even EOD you better have some injection sites to rotate with because to just do the butt is kind of foolish to say the least. The three common and easiest IMO would be glute, delt and thigh..that'll give you 6 injection sites to start and if you're comfortable there are plenty more to do.
DONT THINK you're going to hit you're glutes ED or EOD that would be assinine lol

[TractionIssues]

yeh bro I stopped my first cycle of test p after 4 weeks I only do glute injections and after the 3rd week i decided since i was having trouble getting in and out of my vehicle i hurt so bad to just say Funk This!! I only use E or Cyp... same results less pinning less pain and yes on the question about the clomid and nolva each slash is the mg for that week! some say ypou can go 100/50/50/50 with the clomid if you so choose!

Your problem in Bold.

[alphadog]

I plan on using 8 spots. Right glute, left glute, right delt, left delt, inner left thigh, outer left thigh, inner right thigh, outer right thigh...

its gonna be fun