Test P/Winnie/NPP cycle, Whats your opinion?

[anabolictonic]

Hey guys im thinkin of running test prop, winstrol and npp in my next 8 week cycle.

Ive done about one and a half cycles :P and im wondering should i wait another cycle or 2 before using deca?

Are the gains worth the harder recovery in pct? and are the gains really that good?

And is there any truth in that deca can damage muscle receptors?

Thanks in advance.

[me fein]

i used deca in my last cycle(8-9 months ago) and had to stop half through and only had clomid on hand for my pct and im still recovering.my test levels are just starting to come back up again.i found it supressed my balls pretty bad.so if your going to use it id advise to have all your pct at hand b4 u even start eg;clomiid and hcg

[Dukkit]

i think deca is fine for a 2nd or 3rd cycle

NPP more so cuz you can stop if you need to and its out of your system quicker

i wouldnt bother with the winny though

what were your first 2 cycles

stats?

id run the prop and npp

wait for another cycle to run 3 compounds

[Dukkit]

i never thought deca made my recovery harder

and it does give good gains

[anabolictonic]

i used deca in my last cycle(8-9 months ago) and had to stop half through and only had clomid on hand for my pct and im still recovering.my test levels are just starting to come back up again.i found it supressed my balls pretty bad.so if your going to use it id advise to have all your pct at hand b4 u even start eg;clomiid and hcg

These are teh stories that scare me!

to dukkitdalaw
My first cycle was test e 500mgs weeks 1-9 and prop 400mgs weeks 9-12

2nd cycle was 4.5 weeks of prop had to cut short was going to be 8 weeker.

Well i have hcg arimidex nolva clomid for pct and only 8 weeks im hoping recovery isnt too bad im just worried bout all the stories u hear about.

The winnie was (along with b6) to help with prolactin issues, if it added any mass then great

[anabolictonic]

double post

[anabolictonic]

Oh and stats:

Im 6ft. About 2 months ago i was at 198lbs at around 16% bf but got really sick and dropped to 185lbs at 14-15% bf so im keen to add back on what i lost !!

[Dukkit]

These are teh stories that scare me!

to dukkitdalaw
My first cycle was test e 500mgs weeks 1-9 and prop 400mgs weeks 9-12

2nd cycle was 4.5 weeks of prop had to cut short was going to be 8 weeker.

Well i have hcg arimidex nolva clomid for pct and only 8 weeks im hoping recovery isnt too bad im just worried bout all the stories u hear about.

The winnie was (along with b6) to help with prolactin issues, if it added any mass then great

well if your worried about prolactin then find some caber

but an 8 week cycle of NPP shouldnt affect you too badly
deca durabolin is known for more prolactin affects
guess the longer ester causes problems

and as the above poster stated... he only had clomid for pct
so thats not a horror story. thats his fault

with proper pct youll recover fine

ive ran deca twice and never had any problems.

[anabolictonic]

yer struggling to find caber or bromo thats the prob.

Im just gonna run 200mg b6 ed and that should keep it at bay. il only be running 300mg npp which isnt a very high dose so if i get gyno from that its very unfortunate.

Thanks for your input duk

[Dukkit]

yer struggling to find caber or bromo thats the prob.

Im just gonna run 200mg b6 ed and that should keep it at bay. il only be running 300mg npp which isnt a very high dose so if i get gyno from that its very unfortunate.

Thanks for your input duk

oh you wont have any problems at 300mg a week

thats nothing.

[alpmaster]

I will be doing this cycle as my next cycle.

Prop 1-8 75mg/ED
NPP 2-7 75mg/ED
Winny 2-7 50mg/ED

On paper it's a pretty damn synergistic stack, but I'll give real world feedback when I actually do it. If anyone else has tried a stack like this, I'd love to hear about it.

[anabolictonic]

yer i dont think test is my cup of tea it worked but not that great il of course run it along side the npp but im hoping i respond better to aanabolics than androgenics... thats my reason for running it.

[anabolictonic]

I will be doing this cycle as my next cycle.

Prop 1-8 75mg/ED
NPP 2-7 75mg/ED
Winny 2-7 50mg/ED

On paper it's a pretty damn synergistic stack, but I'll give real world feedback when I actually do it. If anyone else has tried a stack like this, I'd love to hear about it.

Yer looks good doesnt it man.

Are u using an ai on cycle to keep water retention down as well?

Why u starting the npp in week 2?

[alpmaster]

Yer looks good doesnt it man.

Are u using an ai on cycle to keep water retention down as well?

Why u starting the npp in week 2?

Yes I will be using adex at .25mg ED and bromo at 2.5mg ED as ancillaries.

I like to have test on at full blast when introducing other compounds, and I like to enter PCT coming off of just one compound. It's just personal preference, I don't attempt to hold any weight to my theory.

[anabolictonic]

bump

[seriousmass]

My next cycle is gunna be...

Test-400 (weeks 1 - 16) **200mL cyp / 200mL deconate**
NPP (weeks 3 - 12)
T-Bol (weeks 3 - 10)

It's a bulk cycle

[alpmaster]

I dunno, I want to see these magical effects that come from using each type of test, that's why I chose those compounds, so I'll see what happens when it happens.