first cycle: oral winstrol

[tehrich]

I've been on prohormones on and off for the past year. I feel its time to move up to the real deal, starting slow with an oral and moving to injectable. Im gonna purchase pharmacy grade winstrol, 10ml probably if that will be enough. Im wondering, do I need to take test during the cycle or just stick to a SERM? It would also be good if i could get info on what would make this work as an efficient, non damaging cycle. Thanks

[GetTheRage]

Never ever run winni alone.
You need to start with injectable my friend.
Test should be the base of all cycles.
Whats your age/weight/height/bf%/training experience

[lovbyts]

No you dont NEED to run Test if you dont mind your system shutting down, having a limp dick, no drive and feel overall crappy and have minimal gains.

age
height
weight
bodyfat%
yrs training
previous cycles
PCT planned
goals for this cycle

[tehrich]

age
height
weight
bodyfat%
yrs training
previous cycles
PCT planned
goals for this cycle

21
6ft
190
about 15%
2 (short i know)
methadrol, superdrol ng, liquidrone utt, methyl 1-d
nolvadex if its not too strong, and however long is recommended to run off a 10ml cycle
i want to cut, get stronger, and slightly bulk

ive also considered Clen, but im not sure if i would lose strength from it

[GetTheRage]

Age?

[tehrich]

fixed^^^

[GetTheRage]

Your still alittle on the young side bro

[tehrich]

I realize, but im close enough and I'm going to do it, but if i could get the info from a well known forum, that would be better than a guy I'm not sure knows what he is talking about.

[GetTheRage]

You do realize by doing so too early you can screw your body up for the rest of your life and have to be on hormone replacement therapy as well as effect your growth and other things.

[tehrich]

Growth plates are closed no doubt, especially after the PH cycles. I have been told multiple times that designer steroids (phs) are more dangerous than pharmaceutical steroids. It is one of the two, designer or real. I know all the risks and I've thought about this alot.