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I never really thought about this but I was told the other day that if your natural test levels are 700 than taking 500mg of test isnt going to do much for you. Is this true? would I have to take 750-1000mg to see good results? somebody please explain...
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Ummmmm. No. When you take 500mgs. per week of Test, you shut down the natural production of your own Testosterone, with every shot your levels increase throughout the duration of your cycle. That can be verified with blood work and by figuring out the half-life of the steroid you are taking and doing some math. Once the cycle is over and pct is complete and more bloodwork is taken, you may not be back at 700. There are a lot of variables to take into account that I don't know.
Age?
Weight?
Height?
Yrs. Training?
etc.......
Originally Posted by CHIZELCHIN
Last edited by ottomaddox; 07-17-2009 at 09:38 PM.
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not even close. a natural test of "700" doesn't mean 700mg...
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as he ^^ said its 700ng/dl in your bloodstream not 700mg. thus 500mg of test per week would see results
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Thats an interesting question. Would 700 natural test equal out to be may 250mgs of synthetic test or maybe 300???? Does anyone know this.
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Not even close! The average well producing adult male produces app. 7mg a day or 50mg a week! So when you take 500mg a week! you are taking way more than the body would ever produce naturally
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Age = 28
Weight = 240
Height = 5'9
Yrs. Training = 13yrs
I know that natural levels shut down and lets use Enthate for example. Test E levels will increase each week. Just curious of the differences between natural test vs synthetic? because it would take quiet a while for synthic levels to match natural levels if i was taking 500mg per week of Test E...
Just wanting some clarity so i dont start taking more test for no good reason in the near future.
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It takes about 6-10 weeks for the synthetic test to get into your system and stabilize but taking 500mg a week you test levels should be somewhere between 2500 and 5000
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If your levels are 700 why would you consider aas? most would kill for those levels
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sorry bro but i think you overestimating things a little bit , 700 is not very high by any means , a lot of young guys in 20's have even more , its very normal to have these levels when young , and for the record , i even had blood work done once even after i did steroid cycles , and my test levels where above 1000 ng's/dl, and no it was not from pct cs i stopped it from like 6 weeks.
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wow. I thought normal was 250ish to 800. I was saying if your levels are high then why mess with that?
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it is true , the range is all the way to 800 , but many do have that level in their prime , few actually have even more , and the other few have it at the lower end. i have friend , 25 , natty test levels even after cycles , last time 6 months after pct , he was at 960 ng/dl. i read his blood work. another one , who only did a dbol only cycle , tested and is at 260 ng only.
hummm.... i dont think people get on roids because they have lower test levels , at least not right away anyways, people seldom do blood work to know their natty levels . we just do it before we even know our own test levels. got me thinking though .... if my test levels are that high , maybe i will just stay natural for a while , i am 24 by the way.
Thanks for the heads up bro considering that i am a big fan of the cruise and blast method which i will do for sure in the futur.
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What kind of gains do you and your friends make who have levels like that? big guys?
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ya bro , i would consider myself very strong , i gain strength and mass like crazy even naturally , wide shoulders big back , strong legs ...etc. my friend is also the same , he is headstrong.
i mean really and i shit you not , when i bang it on real good even naturally , you can see me changing in size in very few weeks , VERY FEW.
and i loose fat extremely easy , some cardio for 30 minutes after lifting is all i need to loose the fat belly in like 3-4 weeks without even dieting real good.
one time a friend of mine saw me visited me , then returned after 2 WEEKS , when he saw me he said " damn , do you blow the fvck up on a weekly basis ??"
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I had my bloodwork done specifically for my test levels because i knew from a previous episode that they were low! and Voila, 263
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ya bro , low test is a real bitch , you cant do anything .
i had episodes of low test a few times and it sucks , you really loose everything that makes you good , healthy and strong.
i couldn't even drive my car right or talk right .
personally , i am glad i knew steroids and read about them , so later in life , if i have low test i know what it is and i can sense it immediatly , not like the 99% that have it and dont know . you think you are normal even when you have it , but when you feel the high test from AAS , you know after that something is not right with you. nobody is gonna really notice it if they had it all their life .
i dont give a crap as long as i have high test levels all my life , natty or from injections .
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What's your cycle history?
These questions seem remedial in nature.
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