first cycle

[elfin1mf]

Hey I am going to start my first cycle ever on some sort of testosterone. I have not been able to get any yet despite trying very hard for a couple months and am not sure I will have a choice of what type to use. I can not order online but have some questions. Alot of people say it is soo important to use Sarms or similar medications as a "just in case" post cycle or even during. Some people say you will be fine with a pure test cycle. I was considering 12 + weeks of a moderate dose (depends on type of test I acquire). I was not going to add anything to this except for my usual vitamins. I do not want to hear about diet, I am going to a doctor and having my cholesterol and everything else tested every month. I am eating very well and have been researching diet for years as well as speaking to my doctor about exactly how much and what to eat. My goal is to gain mass of course. I am also on accutaine and am wondering if I should worry about this? Everywhere I read says it should be fine to mix.

[TITANIUM]

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[Tarheel]

When I was in college I was on gear and went to a dermatologist to clear up my acne and the Dr said that accutane has a negative effect on your lipid profile..she took blood and when she got the results back she said my cholesterol and triglycerides were too high to be put on accutane...just sharing my experience with ya bro....

[FireGuy]

Hey I am going to start my first cycle ever on some sort of testosterone. I have not been able to get any yet despite trying very hard for a couple months and am not sure I will have a choice of what type to use. I can not order online but have some questions. Alot of people say it is soo important to use Sarms or similar medications as a "just in case" post cycle or even during. Some people say you will be fine with a pure test cycle. I was considering 12 + weeks of a moderate dose (depends on type of test I acquire). I was not going to add anything to this except for my usual vitamins. I do not want to hear about diet, I am going to a doctor and having my cholesterol and everything else tested every month. I am eating very well and have been researching diet for years as well as speaking to my doctor about exactly how much and what to eat. My goal is to gain mass of course. I am also on accutaine and am wondering if I should worry about this? Everywhere I read says it should be fine to mix.

You mean SERMS?

[ninesecz]

for one, are you telling your doctor you are on a steroid cycle cause if not anything he says about a diet is all wrong!! all that diet stuff changes a little bit when you are poumping your body full of muscle building substances!! Also the doseage per week you take should not have any change depending on the type of test you get! Whether it is test E test C Test Prop or anything other than test susp, the weekly dosage will remain a constant! You obviously need more research! If you did not know something simple ike the dosages remain a constant you are not yet ready!

[FireGuy]

for one, are you telling your doctor you are on a steroid cycle cause if not anything he says about a diet is all wrong!! all that diet stuff changes a little bit when you are poumping your body full of muscle building substances!! Also the doseage per week you take should not have any change depending on the type of test you get! Whether it is test E test C Test Prop or anything other than test susp, the weekly dosage will remain a constant! You obviously need more research! If you did not know something simple ike the dosages remain a constant you are not yet ready!

Nine...is the period button on your keyboard broken?

[T-MOS]

^^^ lol He's just excited to help!!!!


elfin, you need some more research so you understand what you are putting into your body and WHY and what it does to you!!

You need to read up in the PCT section here. PCT is a MUST on ANY steroid cycle

you also may need ancillaries to use DURING the cycle to help with estrogen side effects.

look into Arimidex for use during and Clomid and Nolvadex for use after

there is SO much more to this then just popping a pill or sticking a needle in your butt PLEASE EDUCATE B4 YOU MEDICATE !!!

[LickAlotOfPuss]

for one, are you telling your doctor you are on a steroid cycle cause if not anything he says about a diet is all wrong!! all that diet stuff changes a little bit when you are poumping your body full of muscle building substances!! Also the doseage per week you take should not have any change depending on the type of test you get! Whether it is test E test C Test Prop or anything other than test susp, the weekly dosage will remain a constant! You obviously need more research! If you did not know something simple ike the dosages remain a constant you are not yet ready!

wow ignore this guy on his theory that all test dosages are the same, he needs to do a little more research.mg/ml very from different manufactures. go with the only test cycle first put you will be needing a pct, and if you do n0t know what a pct then look it up before you medicate.

[T-MOS]

wow ignore this guy on his theory that all test dosages are the same, he needs to do a little more research.mg/ml very from different manufactures. go with the only test cycle first put you will be needing a pct, and if you do n0t know what a pct then look it up before you medicate.

I think what he meant was that if your gonna do 500 mgs/week of test, it really doesn't matter much if its test E or Cyp or Sust....or even Prop even though you get more MGS of test in prop.

[Matt]

I think what he meant was that if your gonna do 500 mgs/week of test, it really doesn't matter much if its test E or Cyp or Sust....or even Prop even though you get more MGS of test in prop.

Thats what i was reading aswell lol...

Again newbies need to be abit more careful before they post...

[elfin1mf]

thanks for your quick responses.

[elfin1mf]

Also why is it a must to take the PCT, couldnt the PCT have negative side effects in itself.

[elfin1mf]

What is the advantage of a PCT over slowly lowering the dosages of testosterone you take, or supplementing post cycle with small doses

[T-MOS]

OK elfin, we are trying to help you, please try to follow along and do some of YOUR OWN research ON THIS WEBSITE

PCT= Post Cycle Therapy

It is what you use and NEED to use in order to restart your bodies natural testosterone and also to balance out your estrogen

You need to learn and understand what these compounds are and do

There is a WHOLE section here on PCT.....READ IT !!!

your MINIMUM PCT should include at least Clomid AND Nolvadex and run for a minimum of 4 weeks

[T-MOS]

What is the advantage of a PCT over slowly lowering the dosages of testosterone you take, or supplementing post cycle with small doses

this will do NO GOOD as your natural production of test will be SHUT OFF

slowly tapering will still mean you are SHUT OFF and you need the PCT compounds to help RESTART your body's natural HPTA

Steroids SHUT DOWN your natural production, therefore even SMALL doses are going to keep you SHUT DOWN and not do you any good getting back to normal hormone levels

[T-MOS]

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Elfin, PLEASE answer these question before you get any more help

[T-MOS]

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77

Please click the link above and READ the top threads marked IMPORTANT

[elfin1mf]

Also it seems like there are certain PCT meds which are better for use with different types of testosterone. Once I figure out which type of testosterone I will be able to get, then I need to figure out which type of meds to use for PCT and how the hell I am going to get these meds. Like I said I absolutely cannot order through the mail so this hurts me a great deal. The reason I wanted to avoid PCT before was mainly because I have enough trouble getting testosterone in the first place, PCT seems like it would be even harder to attain. I feel so helpless to live life the way I want to, but I am sure after I do some more research life will take a turn for the better. Thanks again for all your responses so far guys.

[T-MOS]

no more help until you answer OUR question PLEASE

if you can't do a proper PCT, then you CAN'T do a cycle

[elfin1mf]

Age? 23
Height? 6'1.5
Weight? 170
BF% around 3-4%
Cycle Exp? never, took 3 ml my entire life
PCT Knowlege Read for about 3 -4 hours about it on this site and am doing much more research now. Sorry guys I guess I need to read more about it.
Training Exp - 2 years natural bodybuilding with the help of my doctor and the internet

[T-MOS]

I would like to see Pictures if you really think your bodyfat is 3 or 4 % if that is true, then you should be on stage competing

6'1 and only 170 lbs means that your diet is NOT set up for growth and steroids are NOT the answer for you right now until you can put on at least 30lbs NATURALLY

[elfin1mf]

I read about Type I aromatase inhibitors (suicide inhibitors) and I get scared about permanently hurting myself. Will these really change me forever or will I eventually recover?

[elfin1mf]

T-MOS I am not very gifted naturally. No matter what diet I try and no matter how much of an overload of calories I eat (I went 6 months overeating constantly to gain once) I seem to grow steadily but quite slowly. I was about 140 when I started working out so I have put on 30 lbs. My stomach looks as shredded as anyone elses I have ever seen, that is what I base my bf% on. I am sorry but I am not comfortable posting pics. Believe me I have such a low body fat percentage it hurts to pee.

[elfin1mf]

The reason I am so low is because I was recently getting ready for a modeling audition to tell the truth. It needs to be that low for my job.

[elfin1mf]

before my massive cut, I was about 200 lbs and looked good, but needed to look shredded. I am just saying that honestly I am 170 right now