Tamoxifen & Clomid...together?

[mlannon]

as a PCT should I take 10mg of Tamoxifen & 51mg of Clomid after coming off 400mg or t-cyp (and using HCG while on my cycle)?

[peachfuzz]

id up the dose of the tamoxifen to 20mg

as far as the hcg...how long was/is the cycle?

[mlannon]

The t-cyp is a 10 week cycle. Thought i would start using the HCG starting at week 4 and until week 11

[peachfuzz]

If your going to incorporate hcg then that would be a good time frame. 250IU 2x/week. although for a 10 week cycle i wouldnt say hcg is pertinent.

[mlannon]

Think I can do without it? What about the Tamox and Clomid? Should I use both of those for PCT?

[peachfuzz]

ye both the tamox and clomid for sure.

tamox 20mg
clomid 50mg

[ythrashin]

ye both the tamox and clomid for sure.

tamox 20mg
clomid 50mg

What exact protocol you recommending?

Nolva 20/20/10/10 ?
Clomid 50/50/25/25 ?

Or

Nolva 20/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50

I'd go with:
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Clomid 50/50/25/25

Either protocol is more sensible then the one posted in the other thread Peachy.

"Clomid 100,50,50,50, Nolvadex 40,40,20,20."

[peachfuzz]

I prefer clomid 50/50/50/50 and tamox 20/20/20/20

dont see a need to taper a SERM and the combination of the two allows for a lower dose of clomid. this is my personal preference.

[ythrashin]

I prefer clomid 50/50/50/50 and tamox 20/20/20/20

dont see a need to taper a SERM and the combination of the two allows for a lower dose of clomid. this is my personal preference.

When using only nolva there can be some estro rebound so tapering is a good idea.

[Big]

I'm old fashioned, I like both nolva and clomid for pct

[peachfuzz]

When using only nolva there can be some estro rebound so tapering is a good idea.

i have never heard of estro rebound with a serm...an AI yes.

[ythrashin]

It can I'll post the articles/docs later...gotta go eat!!

[KimboHalfSlice]

I'm currently doing:

Clomiphene: 100/50/50/50
Tamoxifen: 40/20/20/20

No bad side effects.

[Critical Mass]

When using only nolva there can be some estro rebound so tapering is a good idea.

Maybe its smart to use ari/ari for 2 weeks after discontinuing nolva?

[liftsmore]

If clomi and tamox is both anti-estrogens then why are both needed? Why not just do more of the other?