Week 3 pct, no signs of libido return

[HustlerBrah]

How you doing guys, it's been 3 weeks into my pct and i'm yet to have any good signs of libido returning.

Pct running

nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 0/0/50/50

(only bc clomid was bought a few days ago)


GOt a blood test done yesterday so resuls will bein on monday i dare say.

Any pointers? advice?
When did yourlibido come to terms?

Cycle ran, 8 weeks 100mg eo prop. 4 weeks d-bol 30/30/40/40

[vaders4]

Your estrogen may be out of wack.. wait for someone more experienced to chime in..

[Jfew44]

I like running clomid at 100mgs/day for the first 2 weeks, although come others complain of blurred vision along with other sides. I would bump your clomid up and depending on your results, run your pct for an extra couple of weeks.

Be sure and post your results.

[HustlerBrah]

I'll await my blood results and see what the doctor has to say maybe.

[nombie]

When you say loss of libido you mean you sex drive in general? Or do you have issues with wood. Im just curious as im planning on running test only cycle. Thanks

[HustlerBrah]

prob just wood, if i do see a hot girl i dow ish i was pounding her.

[nombie]

can you eventually get a hardon if you try? Im planning on a test only cycle but dont want my girl to know. Dunno how im gunna hide the post cycle floppy dick

[HustlerBrah]

If i do try i can seem to get a good enough hard to do the job but no were near the best.

You only start to appreciate the random woods you useto get once you don't get them anymore..

[juicebox450]

wait for blood test to b sure but i would continue running pct a lil longer also i would add sum prov. to ur pct that will def help the libido an help get u going a lil fast than nolva alone.............

[HustlerBrah]

And prov is?

[trulbfan3]

clomid 100,100,50,50 and you could throw sum hcg in there and untill u get ure shit figured out get some cialis or viagra...this is why you NEVER RUN A CYCLE UNTILL U HAVE EVERYTHING FOR PCT

[HustlerBrah]

clomid 100,100,50,50 and you could throw sum hcg in there and untill u get ure shit figured out get some cialis or viagra...this is why you NEVER RUN A CYCLE UNTILL U HAVE EVERYTHING FOR PCT

No need in gettin mad brah.

I had 40/40/20/20 of nolvaready for my pct

got clomid in within 2 weeks of pct

did my re-search on HCG and beleve it's not worth it during PCT.

[TITANIUM]

How you doing guys, it's been 3 weeks into my pct and i'm yet to have any good signs of libido returning.

Pct running

nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 0/0/50/50

(only bc clomid was bought a few days ago)


GOt a blood test done yesterday so resuls will bein on monday i dare say.

Any pointers? advice?
When did yourlibido come to terms?

Cycle ran, 8 weeks 100mg eo prop. 4 weeks d-bol 30/30/40/40

The clomid is probably the reason for your slower recover.

Your cycle wasn't a long, suppressive one, but running clomid a little longer would not hurt you.

Unless your BW comes back normal.

Even if your blood work comes back fine, sometimes things take awile to get back on line.

PCT kills libido with alot of people.

Best

T

Patience

[trulbfan3]

not getin mad jsut tryin to make a point ... i made it bold so hopefully everyone who scams through here would see it and maybe pay attention to that ya kno...i cant tell you how many firends/aquaintances i have that screw themselves up b/c they dont have everything they need b4 runnin a cycle

[TITANIUM]

not getin mad jsut tryin to make a point ... i made it bold so hopefully everyone who scams through here would see it and maybe pay attention to that ya kno...i cant tell you how many firends/aquaintances i have that screw themselves up b/c they dont have everything they need b4 runnin a cycle

Bro, I'm not sure who is saying that you are getting mad?

Def not I.

Yes, people need all of there pct compounds on hand before they gear up.

So, It really got covered by the OP in his original post.

He pointed it out himself.

Best

T

[TITANIUM]

How you doing guys, it's been 3 weeks into my pct and i'm yet to have any good signs of libido returning.

Pct running

nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 0/0/50/50

(only bc clomid was bought a few days ago)


GOt a blood test done yesterday so resuls will bein on monday i dare say.

Any pointers? advice?
When did yourlibido come to terms?

Cycle ran, 8 weeks 100mg eo prop. 4 weeks d-bol 30/30/40/40

No need in gettin mad brah.

I had 40/40/20/20 of nolvaready for my pct

got clomid in within 2 weeks of pct

did my re-search on HCG and beleve it's not worth it during PCT.

You are contradicting yourself here.

If you had clomid 2 wks before pct, then why did you say you just bought it?

And you don't run HCG during PCT.

Am I missing something bro?

T

[HustlerBrah]

My bad i meant i got clomid 2 weeks into pct, when i said i got clomid afew days ago that would be the star of the 3rd week of my 4 week pct cycle.

as for the HCG comment yeah i know that's why i'm not running it.

I'll most likely be running my pct for abit longer, maybe an extra week of clomid at 50.

[nombie]

You are contradicting yourself here.

If you had clomid 2 wks before pct, then why did you say you just bought it?

And you don't run HCG during PCT.

Am I missing something bro?

T

Doesn't running HCG make recovery easier? How about running AI during cycle would that make recovery easier also?

[trulbfan3]

yeah hcg makes recovery easier and as far as the ai during cycle idk if taht helps w/ recovery but it does help w/ the estrogen sides and bloating

[juicebox450]

And prov is?

Proviron......look it up an do sum reading on it....its great to run on cycle bec it stacks well with test to increase the amount of free floating test an bonds to more androgen receptors.............but anyway its great on pct also....it keeps ur libido up as well it is a mild ai so it keeps estrogen low..........and also help to recovery natural test....like nolva but not too b replaced for nolva...jus to run along side with....there are a few sides that have been linked to long dosages of prov. but its mild .. read on it an u will like it.....

for pct run proviron;100/100/50/50.........thatsmgs/day for wk1/wk2/wk3/wk4
with ur nolva ;40/40/20/20/10

[HustlerBrah]

Almost finished 4 weeks of nolva and 2 weeks of clomid.

I will definently be extending clomid tillit's finished, prob an extra week

Getting my blood test results back tomororw (tuesday)

Erectons are starting to come back.
THis may be to much info but the load is still the same which is good ig uess .

Have had on average 1 random semi-hard a day.

Getin their guys! !

[gixxerboy1]

not getin mad jsut tryin to make a point ... i made it bold so hopefully everyone who scams through here would see it and maybe pay attention to that ya kno...i cant tell you how many firends/aquaintances i have that screw themselves up b/c they dont have everything they need b4 runnin a cycle

wtf do you mean everyone who scams on here?

[HustlerBrah]

Got my blood test results back and they are a ok says the doc

TSH (thyroid)- .91mIU/L range: 0.5-4.0
total testosterone 14.9nmol/L range 9.5-35.00
Sex hormone binding globulin 26nmol/L range 13-71
Calculated free testosterone 350 pmol/L range 225-725


Before cyce my free test levels were about the same.
NAturally had low test levels i guess.

[chitownhoker]

I don't know about taking proviron for your pct there is VERY mixed reviews on its abilitly to help libido return during pct. Below is one study I found, it states about 33% or so get shut down from it....better to stay away then risk it.

Abstract refuting that Proviron is not highly suppressive

Only 85 men out of 250 showed any suppression. Proviron did not shut down the HPTA in any of the subjects and that was at 150mg for 1 year.

This study shows no effect on normal LH and FSH with 100-150mg/ d mesterolone, and decrease of FSH/LH that were elevated.
Proviron doesn't substitute Clomid as hpta therapy, but doesn't get in the way, either.
The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

PMID: 2892728 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[hummerman]

Not being funny here but what about chewing vigara or cialis during this floppy dick period?

[HustlerBrah]

Great read above^^

I did some reading about prov too and iv just decied to prolong my clomid for another week at 50-75mg.

And as for my libido now, i getboners when i need them, no random one's though, bt i assume they'l evntually come

As for chewing viag/cialis. I see no point if i can get my erections when needed,.


Thanks alot on your guys input,! made this pct a whole lot stres free and easier!

Have anyof you guys heard of clomid/nolva actually reducing your test levels for the time being?,cause i've read that by combatting estrogen build up it doesnt let testosterone be at it' peak.??

[ranging1]

watch some porn and get more vigrx, might help u out

[SilverTest]

man , just wait a little bit bro , it will all get back 2 normal within a short time , you have

to bare this for a while . by a while i mean kinda like a month or 6 weeks to get fully

operational again , if you ask me , i'd say what you are going through is VERY normal

after cycles , specifically during pct. Be patient.

any more questions just ask mate, dont go too crazy on it.