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    does anyone else have a hard time staying asleep while on test? i have to take some ativan in order to stay asleep.im picking up a script for trazodone tomorrow it works too and non narcotic so i like betteer.

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    Idk, I sleep a ton better on test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Idk, I sleep a ton better on test.
    me too....

    isn't trazadone an anti-psychotic?

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    I take two ambiens usually knocks me out in 45 minutes or just makes me stumble around either way its good to go

    I do need more powerful stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard View Post
    me too....

    isn't trazadone an anti-psychotic?

    ~Haz~
    idk but its non narcotic and it works well most of the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    I take two ambiens usually knocks me out in 45 minutes or just makes me stumble around either way its good to go

    I do need more powerful stuff
    get a script for trazodone

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    on my last phera plex cycle i didnt have this problem or when i was on tesoprim D before wich im cycling now before. maybe im just fvcked in the head

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    Quote Originally Posted by ted666 View Post
    get a script for trazodone
    I will take a narcotic over an anti-psychotic any day my friend, I really don't wanna take medication that is made for people who have disorders of related to perception of the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ted666 View Post
    does anyone else have a hard time staying asleep while on test? i have to take some ativan in order to stay asleep.im picking up a script for trazodone tomorrow it works too and non narcotic so i like betteer.
    You need to be very wary about taking prescription sleep aids. 99% of them are habit forming, and most of them are bad for your body.

    If I may make a recommendation, visit a health food store, and purchase some kavakava, or valerian root. These are effective sleep aids produced by nature, not by a drug company in a lab. Wash them down with some heated milk, or make turkey soup for dinner.

    But at least give this a try before taking ativan again!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunHangDo View Post
    You need to be very wary about taking prescription sleep aids. 99% of them are habit forming, and most of them are bad for your body.

    If I may make a recommendation, visit a health food store, and purchase some kavakava, or valerian root. These are effective sleep aids produced by nature, not by a drug company in a lab. Wash them down with some heated milk, or make turkey soup for dinner.

    But at least give this a try before taking ativan again!!!
    i dont like taking the ativan . i only take it when i have to . its never been habit forming , thanks for the concern , im ok...ithink. thats why im filling my scrpt for trazodone. i tried melatonin and others but wont keep me asleep . i only take these things when needed. like i'll take trazodone for about 3 days then i wont take it to see if i can do without it and i'll keep not taking it till i start waking up every half hour , then i'll take it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    I will take a narcotic over an anti-psychotic any day my friend, I really don't wanna take medication that is made for people who have disorders of related to perception of the mind.
    its not an anti -psychotic man. it is prescribed alot for sleep aid.

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    [edit] Liver
    Rare cases of idiosyncratic hepatotoxicity have been observed, possibly due to the formation of reactive metabolites.[22]

    [edit] ENDOCRINE Decrease and, more rarely, increase in libido, weight gain and loss, and rarely, menstrual irregularities, retrograde ejaculation and inhibition of ejaculation.

    Elevated prolactin concentrations have been observed in patients taking trazodone.[23]

    i only take 50mg a night when needed thats the low dose

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    Trazadone works great for me. Been using it for a couple of years.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trazodone

    Trazodone (Desyrel, Beneficat, Deprax, Desirel, Molipaxin, Thombran, Trazorel, Trialodine, Trittico) is a psychoactive drug of the piperazine and triazolopyridine chemical classes that has anti depressant anxiolytic, and hypnotic properties


    Off-label and Investigational Uses
    [edit] Priapism

    Trazodone has rarely been associated with the occurrence of priapism. In approximately 33% of the cases reported, surgical intervention was required and, in a portion of these cases, permanent impairment of erectile function or impotence resulted.
    Priapism is a potentially harmful medical condition in which the erect penis does not return to its flaccid state (despite the absence of both physical and psychological stimulation) within about four hours. It is often painful. Male patients with prolonged or inappropriate erections should immediately discontinue the drug and consult their physician. If the condition persists for more than 24 hours, it would be advisable for the treating physician to consult a urologist or appropriate specialist in order to decide on a management approach.
    In women, a similar condition of persistent arousal can be caused and is called persistent genital arousal disorder.

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    Decrease and, more rarely, increase in libido, weight gain and loss, and rarely, menstrual irregularities, retrograde ejaculation and inhibition of ejaculation.
    Elevated prolactin concentrations have been observed in patients taking trazodone.

    ~Haz~

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    i guess it is ...huh,.well it works good for me and i dont get any noticable side effects

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    you shouldnt use sleep aids with steroids. not a good idea. If u cant sleep than do harder cardio in the morning , and EAT more calories. Sex before bed will help with sleep too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post
    you shouldnt use sleep aids with steroids. not a good idea. If u cant sleep than do harder cardio in the morning , and EAT more calories. Sex before bed will help with sleep too.
    Why is that?

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    exactly, why not?

    when im on test i sleep like a log. and if i cant sleep, xanax, works like a charm..

    but i really want to know why u shouldnt use sleep meds while on cycle...

    oh yea, i just stsrted my cycle today....

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    I have to use sleeping pills on a daily bases and on tren I really need it. I have not seen one study regarding sleeping pills and gear. Sounds made up to me but if there is something to prove other wise please let me know.

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    Just eat a bucket of ribs before bed problem solved.lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Idk, I sleep a ton better on test.
    agreed

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    I had problems on test before, not currently on this cycle, but I agree I would go to a viteman store and get some melatonin it works great and all natural. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunHangDo View Post
    If I may make a recommendation, visit a health food store, and purchase some kavakava, or valerian root. These are effective sleep aids produced by nature, not by a drug company in a lab. Wash them down with some heated milk, or make turkey soup for dinner.
    Why do you think that something "produced by nature" should be any safer or be any less dangerous than something produced in a lab. Cocaine and Opium come from nature. Plus there's plenty of safe drugs that have only ever been produced in a lab.

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    i sleep fine on test, althought i do take amiltryptiline for a trapped nerve, which makes me a lil sleepy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    Why is that?
    ...x2 (Diazepam)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ted666 View Post
    does anyone else have a hard time staying asleep while on test? i have to take some ativan in order to stay asleep.im picking up a script for trazodone tomorrow it works too and non narcotic so i like betteer.
    You could try the natural approach 1st. Some Melatonin 3mg before bed or some ZMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by **** View Post
    You could try the natural approach 1st. Some Melatonin 3mg before bed or some ZMA.
    not both?

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    I use gabba and zma and I sleep magnificantly. Melatonin can be added and the three can be mixed and matched as long as the doses aren't absurd.

    As a bonus zma increases test and gabba increases hgh over night. (not to the extent steroids will obviously, but a lot of natural BB's preach this combo

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    clonozepam (Klonopin/Rivotril) knocks me out good even with clen and tren playing tag in my brain

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