Newbie Here - Here to introduce myself/ask for advice on my cycle

[hekdizzle]

Hey everyone. I'm 27 years old, 5'08 about 195. I started a cycle of test-e 250 and tren 100 about a month ago. At first I was only doing a half amp of each and recently i just started doing a full amp of each so 500ml test e - 200 ml of tren per week. My cycle is almost up and im about to switch to sustanon 300 twice a week tren 100 twice a week and nolvadex. I just wanted some advice on what you guys think if im doing the right stuff to get big and shredded, Im trying to get my body fat % down too as its probably pretty high right now. Ive been going to the gym 5 days a week. Let me know what u guys think any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[gixxerboy1]

What is,ur bf? Are u using an ai? Do u have pct lined up?.
If ur going and not stopong its,still one cycle. Just because u switch things doesn't make it a new cycle.
What ester tren are u using

[hekdizzle]

I dont know what my body fat % is yet. I need to get it checked out. I dont have a pct lined up yet, should i? and ok I didn't realize if i kept it goin that was still one cycle. I think Nolvadex is an AI, correct? and when you say what "ester" tren,,,what does that mean? sorry im new to this.

[Lunk1]

Seems like your timing is a bit off. I would think having all the answers before starting to inject hormones into my body would be a wiser play!

[Lunk1]

I dont know what my body fat % is yet. I need to get it checked out. I dont have a pct lined up yet, should i? and ok I didn't realize if i kept it goin that was still one cycle. I think Nolvadex is an AI, correct? and when you say what "ester" tren,,,what does that mean? sorry im new to this.

Where on earth did you get the idea to do this????

[gixxerboy1]

I dont know what my body fat % is yet. I need to get it checked out. I dont have a pct lined up yet, should i? and ok I didn't realize if i kept it goin that was still one cycle. I think Nolvadex is an AI, correct? and when you say what "ester" tren,,,what does that mean? sorry im new to this.

Really at 27 u should be smarter thrn be injecting very strong drugs intp ur body that obviously u know nothing about.
I would stop injecting everything now. Read the pct section and order ur pct from Ar-r

[hekdizzle]

Lunk1 you're right, But I'm in the middle of it now so im just trying to learn as much as possible. When I started I didn't understand how complicated this process is and all the information to be educated on.

[hekdizzle]

I will read the pct section and order something but I dont plan on stopping. Can you guys at least give me some advice so I can get the best out of what im doing?

[The Titan99]

No enough time to try to straighten this mess out. Could you imagine injecting Tren and not knowing if it was E or A? Wow!!! And "Don't have PCT lined up yet, should I?" The end result of this fiasco are going to be exactly the same as if a 10 year old jumped in a running helicopter and attempted to take off!!!

[Lunk1]

Lunk1 you're right, But I'm in the middle of it now so im just trying to learn as much as possible. When I started I didn't understand how complicated this process is and all the information to be educated on.

You need an AI ASAP..I would go with Adex or Ldex to work faster.
You also need your PCT ordered now. Nolva and Clomid. Like Gixx said...read the PCT section and learn before fuking that up.
You should have Prami or Caber on hand
Next cross your fingers your not an A cup and your penis isnt a wet noodle when this is all over!!!

[hekdizzle]

I've read the profiles on the stuff im using. Just wanted some expert advice thats all

[Lunk1]

I will read the pct section and order something but I dont plan on stopping. Can you guys at least give me some advice so I can get the best out of what im doing?

I'm assuming your Ten is Tren Acetate as you said it's 100 which is most likely 100mg/ML

Stop taking the Nolva...its for your PCT.

Why are you switching Tests? from E to Sus??

[gixxerboy1]

I've read the profiles on the stuff im using. Just wanted some expert advice thats all

If u did u woukd know that your not even using the tren correctly

[hekdizzle]

My current Tren is Tren Ace. 100mg/ml I havent started taking the nolva yet. A buddy of mine whos been doing this for awhile suggested running the nolva to avoid gyno. Honestly I just asked what he was doing for juice and told him to get me the same stuff. Thats why im switching from test 250 to sust 300. Plus I heard this sust is good quality. I was kinda mis-informed by someone who I got the stuff im taking now from. and now I just want to do this the most efficient and safest way possible. Sorry for my lack of understanding.

[hekdizzle]

gixx, how am I not using it correctly?

[gixxerboy1]

My current Tren is Tren Ace. 100mg/ml I havent started taking the nolva yet. A buddy of mine whos been doing this for awhile suggested running the nolva to avoid gyno. Honestly I just asked what he was doing for juice and told him to get me the same stuff. Thats why im switching from test 250 to sust 300. Plus I heard this sust is good quality. I was kinda mis-informed by someone who I got the stuff im taking now from. and now I just want to do this the most efficient and safest way possible. Sorry for my lack of understanding.

Then stop, u dont have an ai dont know ur bf. Ur using tbe tren wrong. There is absolutely no legit reason to continue

[gixxerboy1]

gixx, how am I not using it correctly?

Tren a needs to be injected ed or eod.

[Lunk1]

Just use the same test you have been using...Sus is not better..its all test!
As far as the tren goes..it needs to be injected every other day!

You really should stop and PCT...you have the Nolva. Just need some Clomid and your set! This is a friggin mess and your headed down a painful path.

[hekdizzle]

I can get an AI quickly. So if I do the sust 300 twice a week and tren every other day, That would be ok? How much tren should I be injected eod if im doing 600 sust per week?

[gixxerboy1]

I can get an AI quickly. So if I do the sust 300 twice a week and tren every other day, That would be ok? How much tren should I be injected eod if im doing 600 sust per week?

Both are way more then u need and depending on ur bf you may possibly shouldnt use anything

[banehallow]

dont forget hCG too bro, your nuts are probably shrunken by now and with the additional test your taking you def need that. I'm sure these guys will tell you more about it.

[hekdizzle]

I would love if someone did tell me more about it bane. gixx. I just did something online to calculate my bf % with a measuring tape. It came out to 20.6^ Based on that and considering my goals. What do you think the best option for me would be. And if I REALLY need to stop and PCT I will, But if I can continue my cycle and get good results I would like to continue it. But what would your expert advice be on how much I should be taking of each?

[Lunk1]

I would love if someone did tell me more about it bane. gixx. I just did something online to calculate my bf % with a measuring tape. It came out to 20.6^ Based on that and considering my goals. What do you think the best option for me would be. And if I REALLY need to stop and PCT I will, But if I can continue my cycle and get good results I would like to continue it. But what would your expert advice be on how much I should be taking of each?

Can you post a faceless body pic for evaluation of your BF%

[hekdizzle]

Lunk, is this good enough? or do you need me to take a better one? I really appreciate the help. I just want to do this the right way even though I started out wrong,

[hekdizzle]

i uploaded it as my profile pic I dont know if you can see it. Maybe for some reason its not showing up yet?

[Lunk1]

I see it...18% or so although I am not too good a BF% guessing.

Are you able to stay on the Test E instead of the Sus??

[hekdizzle]

I see it...18% or so although I am not too good a BF% guessing.

Are you able to stay on the Test E instead of the Sus??

I already put the order in for the sus. I will try n see if its not too late to switch if you think that would be better for me... If not, would it be ok to switch to the sus and how much of should i be doing of the sus or test-e and tren?

[Lunk1]

Sus is a blend so to take true advantage of it you need to inject EOD just like the Tren.

1-12 Test @ 500mg EW If test E the 2X per week, if Sus then EOD
1-8 Tren A @ 350 mg EW
Adex (AI) .25mg EOD 1-12
Caber or Prami on hand
HCG at 250iuX2 per week

PCT 13 days after last pin Nolva 40/20/20/20 and Clomid 100/50/50/50 (these are doses per day, per week)

[hekdizzle]

Ok thank you this is very helpful. Should I stop and PCT before switching to this plan or can I still just jump right into it. I just need to get my hands on Adex. Caber or Prami amd HCG - any auggestion on how to get this quick from a legit source if my supplier doesn't have it on hand?

[gixxerboy1]

i dissagree with lunk
i would drop the tren
i would do the test at 500mg per week sust or test doesnt matter.
I dont agree with the sust needs to be injected eod
if you use sust pct would start 18 days after last injection

[xerxes333]

I'm no vet but your current cycle seems to be on the path to failure. I see no mention of your diet (macros) which (judging from your profile pic) should have been in check before you started this cycle. What is your current diet? I agree with everyone that says you should stop the cycle and start AI. You may have researched the individual profiles of the compounds but clearly you did not research the processes involved with starting a cycle or PCT at the end.

[banehallow]

Sus is a blend so to take true advantage of it you need to inject EOD just like the Tren.

1-12 Test @ 500mg EW If test E the 2X per week, if Sus then EOD
1-8 Tren A @ 350 mg EW
Adex (AI) .25mg EOD 1-12
Caber or Prami on hand
HCG at 250iuX2 per week

PCT 13 days after last pin Nolva 40/20/20/20 and Clomid 100/50/50/50 (these are doses per day, per week)

i dissagree with lunk
i would drop the tren
i would do the test at 500mg per week sust or test doesnt matter.
I dont agree with the sust needs to be injected eod
if you use sust pct would start 18 days after last injection

^ you got your vets advice here hek,
its safer for you to do only one type of test shot this cycle. is what gixx is probly saying
but yeah lunk has laid it out for ya,
get some AI and PCT
REST you body! on cycle+PCT = off cycle
then you can start off fresh the next cycle
we'll see then if your body was able to handle your current cycle
also your body can transition into producing its own hormones.
there's no need to rush these things, this is where aas get their bad rep from misinformed users.

[hekdizzle]

I'm no vet but your current cycle seems to be on the path to failure. I see no mention of your diet (macros) which (judging from your profile pic) should have been in check before you started this cycle. What is your current diet? I agree with everyone that says you should stop the cycle and start AI. You may have researched the individual profiles of the compounds but clearly you did not research the processes involved with starting a cycle or PCT at the end.

I started dieting 2 weeks ago. Basically I eat no white rice, white bread, regular pasta. I eat every 2-3 hours getting protein every meal. Shooting for 300g protein a day. At least 200g will be my minimum. Carbs during the day cuz I work out in the evening. Chicken or Steak for dinner with brown rice. Thats basically my diet right now

[Lunk1]

i dissagree with lunk
i would drop the tren
i would do the test at 500mg per week sust or test doesnt matter.
I dont agree with the sust needs to be injected eod
if you use sust pct would start 18 days after last injection

Gixx...I gave him the answer he wanted to hear after it has become painfully obvious he refuses to listen to the safest advise. It's clear he refuses to drop the Tren so I laid it out. If he is smart enough and you can finally get through then YES! Dropping the Tren is NO DOUBT the best answer, hell dropping this whole cycle since he has nothing on hand and is obviously NOT ready is the BEST answer!

As far as pinning Sus EOD, your already pinning Tren EOD (if he keeps it) and to take full advantage of the Prop ester in Sus you may as well divide your dose and pin it EOD as well. This allows for a regular pinning schedule and more stable blood levels!

[hekdizzle]

i dissagree with lunk
i would drop the tren
i would do the test at 500mg per week sust or test doesnt matter.
I dont agree with the sust needs to be injected eod
if you use sust pct would start 18 days after last injection

If I drop the tren...Would it be ok to replace it with maybe win + AI and HCG? because im' trying to shred up.
If not eod with the sust then what? twice a week? I'm confused.
I was mis-informed on tren use by the person I got it from who claims to be an "expert" on this stuff, clearly not.
I'm not stubborn and if I should drop the whole cycle and just use nolva + clomid for now than I will. but for how long? and when do I start my new cycle?

REST you body! on cycle+PCT = off cycle

What does the mean I have no idea

I appreciate the help guys I'm not an ignorant idiot I was just mis-informed and I wanna do this the best and safest way as possible. If one of you guys wouldn't mind maybe explaining this stuff to me over the phone I'd really appreciate that too.

[hekdizzle]

Gixx...I gave him the answer he wanted to hear after it has become painfully obvious he refuses to listen to the safest advise. It's clear he refuses to drop the Tren so I laid it out. If he is smart enough and you can finally get through then YES! Dropping the Tren is NO DOUBT the best answer, hell dropping this whole cycle since he has nothing on hand and is obviously NOT ready is the BEST answer!

As far as pinning Sus EOD, your already pinning Tren EOD (if he keeps it) and to take full advantage of the Prop ester in Sus you may as well divide your dose and pin it EOD as well. This allows for a regular pinning schedule and more stable blood levels!

Ok I will drop the Tren, Now what? What do I replace it with? Drop the whole cycle and PCT? but for how long? OR just drop the tren and continue the sust but with what else considering my goals. I'll get whatever AI and HCG stuf I need ASAP.

[Lunk1]

You keep saying you not ignorant and that you are not stubborn... Bull Fkn shyt!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have bee told repeatedly by guys with more cycle experience than you can shake a god damn stick at, to stop and PCT cause you screwing up! Yet EVERY damn response from you is another question about how to CONTINUE doing what your doing! Please tell me how that isn't ignorant and stubborn!

You started a harsh cycle with no fkn knowledge of the compounds and what they do...you can "shred" on anything or without any at all!!!!!!!!!! It's 100% diet, yet you keep insisting that tren ir another compound is needed...ignorant and stubborn!!!

You have no AI, No PCT, No HCG and your now going to try and cross your fingers that things come after your 4 weeks in...ignorant and stubborn!

Nobody here is going to give you a phone # or personal info, you could be a cop for all anyone knows...ignorant!!!!!!!!!!

You trusted the drug dealer who you bought stuff from for info, hmmm, ever think he might be seeling more than you need cause he makes more $$$? Ignorant and stubborn!

I havn't been this pissed at a noob in a while....guess I'm ignorant for continuing to beat my head trying to help you...or I'm stubborn!

[bigsiv]

I've never heard Lunk blow his top like that!

[gixxerboy1]

If I drop the tren...Would it be ok to replace it with maybe win + AI and HCG? because im' trying to shred up.
If not eod with the sust then what? twice a week? I'm confused.
I was mis-informed on tren use by the person I got it from who claims to be an "expert" on this stuff, clearly not.
I'm not stubborn and if I should drop the whole cycle and just use nolva + clomid for now than I will. but for how long? and when do I start my new cycle?

What does the mean I have no idea

I appreciate the help guys I'm not an ignorant idiot I was just mis-informed and I wanna do this the best and safest way as possible. If one of you guys wouldn't mind maybe explaining this stuff to me over the phone I'd really appreciate that too.

getting shred is diet not drugs
Yes stop everything. The cycle is a disaster and there is no reason to try and salvage it at this point. Just stop and wait 14 days and start your pct.
Dont worry on when to start another yet. Start learning on how to cycle properly before you worry about doing another.

[xerxes333]

Wow, you really got under Lunk's skin bro!

If your goal is to get shredded then I say drop any cycles your doing, follow a good PCT, and start dieting naturally. Getting shredded is easy if you're man enough to follow the protocol and not deviate (cheat). If the diet that you said you were on is accurate and you're not adding things like beer, soda, fatty dressings, salt, sugar, snacks, etc. then you will get shredded naturally overtime (16 weeks is a good range). But the key is you have to stick to the protocol at all times. You cant have one weekend where you pig out on crappy food or drink all weekend and think you will still get shredded it does not work that way. I'm not trying to be a jerk by saying this but based on your profile pic, if its current, you can get MUCH BETTER results from proper nutrition than steroids right now.

But if your goal is to get as big/strong as possible while being a fatty-fat-fat in the process, I suggest pinning as many compounds as financially possible and eat 5000+ kCal per day.