first cycle was it a waste of time

[dannyjamesdixon]

Hello

Just ran 12 weeks of test- e . i have had no side effects what's so ever this is my first cycle . i have increased strength and size but no bigger then when i bulked before and my strength hasn't gone up that much . should i go on with pct . is there anyway of finding out if my gear was good as i researched it alot and heard alot of good things about the supplier .

[D7M]

what dose did you run?

Did you have increased libido while on cycle?

[dec11]

ugl or pharm?

[dannyjamesdixon]

i ran 500mg per week in two separate injections . mondays and thursday . i ran dbol for the first 4 weeks and during those 4 weeks had an increased libido but after that it went back to normal . both the test-e and debol were from different suppliers

[marcus300]

Hello

Just ran 12 weeks of test- e . i have had no side effects what's so ever this is my first cycle . i have increased strength and size but no bigger then when i bulked before and my strength hasn't gone up that much . should i go on with pct . is there anyway of finding out if my gear was good as i researched it alot and heard alot of good things about the supplier .

you have increased strength and size but no bigger!!

You want to explain that one again?

[dannyjamesdixon]

ugl or pharm?

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underground lab for the test-e

[dannyjamesdixon]

you have increased strength and size but no bigger!!

You want to explain that one again?

not major increases in strength and size . yes i gained weight but i was eating a large quantity of food mostly clean and just started the fst-7 style workout as well .

[dannyjamesdixon]

you have increased strength and size but no bigger!!

You want to explain that one again?

my start weight was about 90kg last time i bulked i got up to 103 and iam about that again so no major differences

[AcePowerZ]

Yes, you will still want to run a PCT. Don't not run it just because you think you could have had bunk gear.

[dannyjamesdixon]

Yes, you will still want to run a PCT. Don't not run it just because you think you could have had bunk gear.

pct is in place and ready to roll . i just moved gyms and a good friend can get me legit gear what alot of the guys use there . i dont know should i do the time on time off rule for next cycle if i believe this was bunk gear ?

[marcus300]

Increased sex drive?
Small testicles?
any bloat?
stats, before and after?
How long you been training for?
How old?

[AcePowerZ]

pct is in place and ready to roll . i just moved gyms and a good friend can get me legit gear what alot of the guys use there . i dont know should i do the time on time off rule for next cycle if i believe this was bunk gear ?

Yes thats a rule you will want to follow. Time on is time off.

[dannyjamesdixon]

Increased sex drive?
Small testicles?
any bloat?
stats, before and after?
How long you been training for?
How old?

no change in testicles
no acne and i have suffered bad in the past from it so was surprised
bloat ocssicaonlly but since i swapped out nearly all shakes with whole food this seems to have gone .
weight was 90kg about (103-105 goes up and down each day )
28 year old been training about just over 5 years

[AcePowerZ]

My first cycle I had no testicle attrophy nor any acne well very little acne. You should deffinitly been able to tell if your gear was legit though. I know I could notice the change in strength. Not too much in size but I was a lot heftier when I started my cycle too.

[dannyjamesdixon]

My first cycle I had no testicle attrophy nor any acne well very little acne. You should deffinitly been able to tell if your gear was legit though. I know I could notice the change in strength. Not too much in size but I was a lot heftier when I started my cycle too.

i noticed strength gains while on the dbol in the first four weeks the same with the sex drive increase. once i stopped that strength and sex drive went back to normal .

[marcus300]

How much were you injection per week?

[dannyjamesdixon]

How much were you injection per week?

500 mg per week . two injections per week . 1 x 1ml 250mg

[dec11]

gear sounds a bit dubious to me, i always go pharm grade

[sfour_tay]

Maybe it was extreamly under dosed ???

[marcus300]

I would say diet first, list your diet

[G4R]

no change in testicles
no acne and i have suffered bad in the past from it so was surprised
bloat ocssicaonlly but since i swapped out nearly all shakes with whole food this seems to have gone .
weight was 90kg about (103-105 goes up and down each day )
28 year old been training about just over 5 years

How many cycles have you run? What were they and what were the doses?

-Never mind on this...... ^^^ "first cycle" slipped my mind when i posted.

[Hard.On]

no change in testicles
no acne and i have suffered bad in the past from it so was surprised
bloat ocssicaonlly but since i swapped out nearly all shakes with whole food this seems to have gone .
weight was 90kg about (103-105 goes up and down each day )
28 year old been training about just over 5 years

Im confused
you gained 13 - 15 kg (what were you expecting to gain)
what was your body fat before and after