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    Really appreciate help/input on cycle

    Stil on the research end, so bear with me

    stat:
    Weight: 78kg
    length:177
    Lifted weights: more than 10 yrs
    age 30

    So here comes the cycle that i have in mind, all input are appreciated.

    w1-12 sust, 500mg/w (inj 250 mon/250thurs)
    w1-10 deca, 300-400mg/w ( divided into two inj/w along w sust)
    w1-4 Dianabol, 20mg/d ( kickstart the cycle)

    w1-12 AI (arimidex if i can get a hold on 0,25mg/d)
    if arimidex not available then Proviron (25mg X2/day)
    ?w3-12 Nolva, 10mg/d?
    (read that Nolva should not b used w Deca, so i'm confused here, should i or should i not?)

    w5 HCG, 1500iu ( diveded into 3 doses a 500iu eod)
    w10 HCG, 1500iu ( diveded into 3 doses a 500iu eod)
    w14,5 HCG, 1500iu ( diveded into 3 doses a 500iu eod)

    PCT (18 days after last sust
    -Nolva 10mg/d
    -Clomid 300mg/d1, 100mg/d2-4, 50mg/d total 4 weeks

    As i have mentioned earlier ( in a previous thread) in my younger days when stupid and uneducated i've done 2 cycles, first only deca, second deca/sust + dianabol.

    I don't remember deca dick on first cycle but second time around i remember something about libido probl post cycle for a while. non of the first 2 cycles had pct in em, i know stupid, but i didn't know at the time. if i had access to this forum i'd have waited and id do things differently.

    My biggest concern with this cycle is libido, so my question other then the length/stength of the cycle is, do you guys think i'll encounter any major libido problems considering the precautions i'm taking w Ai and pct??

    Should i just dropp the deca and up my dianabol? if so should i still keep the AI/Nolva/HCG during cycle??

    Will the deca in the cycle have a extreme add on in terms of gains/strength??

    I know a lot of you veterans in this forum are able to answer my questions with own experience and knowledge so i sincerely appretiate you answers.

    Thank you all in advance.
    Last edited by mahwas; 12-27-2009 at 12:59 PM.

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    Just a add on to the post my last cycle was about 6 years ago.

    If i remember it correctly
    w1-8 deca 250mg
    w1-5 dianabol 20-30mg/d
    w9-12 sust

    No pct

    Gains were pretty damn good though, although the gain could have been keept better if pct and also i was in middle of moving between continents so. but i'm not trying to excuse my bad judgment and stupidity.

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    Thats a classic cycle that has proven to work. I am doing that cycle with test e soon too btw.

    Do either ari or proviron on the cycle. Nolva works poorly with ari and deca.

    Not sure on the hcg. Any reason you are doing it that way?

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    If your last cycle was 6 yrs ago you dont need all those compounds, just do a plain Test cycle, that will do fine, if your prone to estrogen sides get a-dex to hand and use the basic clomid and nolva PCT.

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    My reasoning is the research i've done, some of the posts are saying do HCG ed during cycle in smaller iu's, others are in favor of doing a higher iu's during the end of the cycle, i figure that by doing this hcg layout it should keep levels on a normal path, not too much but just inuf....making sure my boys keep align

    Omna82, what dose are you doing for your deca? what's your weight?

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    If doing just the sustanon + Dianabol would you advocate for arimidex on cycle? how about hcg???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahwas View Post
    If doing just the sustanon + Dianabol would you advocate for arimidex on cycle? how about hcg???
    HCG would be of great benefit to the sus and dbol cycle, a-dex your better of having just incase your get issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    HCG would be of great benefit to the sus and dbol cycle, a-dex your better of having just incase your get issues.
    Thanx for info

    any recomended dosage/frequency of use? i know swift recomends 125-250 iu 2-3 times weekly during cycle.

    Also how about 10mg/nolva ed during cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahwas View Post
    Thanx for info

    any recomended dosage/frequency of use? i know swift recomends 125-250 iu 2-3 times weekly during cycle.

    Also how about 10mg/nolva ed during cycle?
    HCG=250 iu's X 2 wk.

    You can run nolva, but I would wait to see what happens with sides.

    Best

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