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    Is too much protein bad for the kidneys????

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    Will eating too much protein damage the kidneys?

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    My Doc told me that yes, too many protein shakes can be bad on the kidneys.
    But eating foods high in protein would be okay for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (TLF) CHAMPION54 View Post
    My Doc told me that yes, too many protein shakes can be bad on the kidneys.
    But eating foods high in protein would be okay for them.
    I was told to drink 1 a day by my GP....

    I have 2 - 1 in the day and 1 afda workout.

    I do not have 2 on days that I do not work out Fridays n weekends.

    Is that ok?

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    hey bro, im sure 2 is no problem.... many people like myself do 3+ in a day.... alot worse things out there than 2 shakes a day lol....just my .02, may want to wait for someone whos more knowledgable to answer u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhioMuscle22 View Post
    hey bro, im sure 2 is no problem.... many people like myself do 3+ in a day.... alot worse things out there than 2 shakes a day lol....just my .02, may want to wait for someone whos more knowledgable to answer u.
    I thort so.

    It is ok if u keep hydrated well with water.

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    seeing as we are only designed to live to about 30-35, everything you eat is pretty much bad for your body in excess. 2 a day is fine. come on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    seeing as we are only designed to live to about 30-35, everything you eat is pretty much bad for your body in excess. 2 a day is fine. come on
    okay.

    sweat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (TLF) CHAMPION54 View Post
    My Doc told me that yes, too many protein shakes can be bad on the kidneys.
    But eating foods high in protein would be okay for them.
    my doc said the same thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    my doc said the same thing...
    Yeah she said I had too much protein in my kidneys, so I stopped for a few weeks and started drinking them again.

    I wouldnt worry too much if your drinking enough water and maybe some cranberry juice to flush them out every once in awhile.

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    Too much protein can be bad for you? Im not sure wether to believe that at all.

    Bears like us are omniverous, yet bears that eat just plants can only reach a weight of around 210 pounds but bears that eat meat (particularly fond of salmon which is high in protein, 0mega 3 and Vit D) with their veg can grow to 470 pounds. There doesnt seem to be a problem for them with their extra protein intake so I dont see how it would affect us.

    I heard that too much protein can cause gowt, dehydration or kidney stones, but then you could say the same about anything you eat too much of. It's all about having a balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Too much protein can be bad for you? Im not sure wether to believe that at all.

    Bears like us are omniverous, yet bears that eat just plants can only reach a weight of around 210 pounds but bears that eat meat (particularly fond of salmon which is high in protein, 0mega 3 and Vit D) with their veg can grow to 470 pounds. There doesnt seem to be a problem for them with their extra protein intake so I dont see how it would affect us.

    I heard that too much protein can cause gowt, dehydration or kidney stones, but then you could say the same about anything you eat too much of. It's all about having a balance.
    I know!

    Keep hydrated aswell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Too much protein can be bad for you? Im not sure wether to believe that at all.

    Bears like us are omniverous, yet bears that eat just plants can only reach a weight of around 210 pounds but bears that eat meat (particularly fond of salmon which is high in protein, 0mega 3 and Vit D) with their veg can grow to 470 pounds. There doesnt seem to be a problem for them with their extra protein intake so I dont see how it would affect us.

    I heard that too much protein can cause gowt, dehydration or kidney stones, but then you could say the same about anything you eat too much of. It's all about having a balance.
    I know!

    Keep hydrated aswell!

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    Seems like everyone at the gym is doing it: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength.

    In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University.

    She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:

    * Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
    * Eating more protein and increasing total caloric intake while maintaining the same exercise level will build an equal amount of additional fat and muscle mass, according to a study published in 1992 in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society.

    Too Much Protein

    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.
    How Much Protein Do I Need?

    The amount of protein you require depends on your weight and your daily caloric intake. Most Americans consume more than enough protein in their daily diets. A few specific groups of people are at risk for being protein-deficient, including elderly women and people with illnesses or eating disorders. A protein deficiency is defined as eating 50% to 75% of the recommended amount of daily protein, Butterfield explains.

    Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.

    Protein should also make up approximately 15% of your total daily caloric intake, also according to the RDA. In a diet of 1,800 calories a day, for example, about 270 of those calories should come from protein.
    It's Essential

    Although limiting protein intake is important, you should also realize that protein is essential to our bodies' normal functions. It assists in synthesizing enzymes and hormones, maintaining fluid balance, and regulating such vital functions as building antibodies against infection, blood clotting, and scar formation.

    Protein is also a building block for our muscles, bones, cartilage, skin, hair, and blood. Protein-rich foods include meat, cheese, milk, fish, and eggs. For vegetarians, protein can be found in soy products such as tofu as well as in combinations of foods, such as rice or corn with beans.

    Whether you are an avid strength trainer, a marathon runner, or just an average exerciser, a balanced diet that is rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, fish, and complex carbohydrates is what nutritionists recommend.

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    Seems like everyone at the gym is doing it: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength.

    In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University.

    She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:

    * Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
    * Eating more protein and increasing total caloric intake while maintaining the same exercise level will build an equal amount of additional fat and muscle mass, according to a study published in 1992 in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society.

    Too Much Protein

    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.
    How Much Protein Do I Need?

    The amount of protein you require depends on your weight and your daily caloric intake. Most Americans consume more than enough protein in their daily diets. A few specific groups of people are at risk for being protein-deficient, including elderly women and people with illnesses or eating disorders. A protein deficiency is defined as eating 50% to 75% of the recommended amount of daily protein, Butterfield explains.

    Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.

    Protein should also make up approximately 15% of your total daily caloric intake, also according to the RDA. In a diet of 1,800 calories a day, for example, about 270 of those calories should come from protein.
    It's Essential

    Although limiting protein intake is important, you should also realize that protein is essential to our bodies' normal functions. It assists in synthesizing enzymes and hormones, maintaining fluid balance, and regulating such vital functions as building antibodies against infection, blood clotting, and scar formation.

    Protein is also a building block for our muscles, bones, cartilage, skin, hair, and blood. Protein-rich foods include meat, cheese, milk, fish, and eggs. For vegetarians, protein can be found in soy products such as tofu as well as in combinations of foods, such as rice or corn with beans.

    Whether you are an avid strength trainer, a marathon runner, or just an average exerciser, a balanced diet that is rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, fish, and complex carbohydrates is what nutritionists recommend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twist View Post
    seeing as we are only designed to live to about 30-35, everything you eat is pretty much bad for your body in excess. 2 a day is fine. come on
    ????


    here is a simple answer, too much of anything can be a problem..

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    More than an average of 60 grams of protein a day will lead to Osteoporosis.

    Protein is acidic (at high levels) and especially to your bones.

    My doctor told me today that protein shakes are the problem. They lack the fundamental building blocks which keep this acidity from happening... Protein shakes are processed...

    Getting protein from food will generally help this from happening however too much protein IE 2x body weight won't help by any means no matter where you get it from.

    BTW has anyone seen a 90 yr old body builder???? I didn't think so... hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomaskstewart View Post
    More than an average of 60 grams of protein a day will lead to Osteoporosis.

    Protein is acidic (at high levels) and especially to your bones.

    My doctor told me today that protein shakes are the problem. They lack the fundamental building blocks which keep this acidity from happening... Protein shakes are processed...

    Getting protein from food will generally help this from happening however too much protein IE 2x body weight won't help by any means no matter where you get it from.

    BTW has anyone seen a 90 yr old body builder???? I didn't think so... hmmm...
    That was a good one!
    Once I saw one, but he died 30 years before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomaskstewart View Post
    More than an average of 60 grams of

    BTW has anyone seen a 90 yr old body builder???? I didn't think so... hmmm...
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle237349.ece

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbH1iqRulac

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAUQd...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5om6...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by boz88 View Post
    Seems like everyone at the gym is doing it: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength.

    In fact, medical research shows that consuming too much protein -- more than 30% of your total daily caloric intake -- could actually harm your body, says protein expert Gail Butterfield, PhD, RD, director of Nutrition Studies at the Palo Alto Veterans' Administration Medical Center and nutrition lecturer at Stanford University.

    She says that a diet containing excess protein can have the following adverse effects:

    * Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
    * Eating more protein and increasing total caloric intake while maintaining the same exercise level will build an equal amount of additional fat and muscle mass, according to a study published in 1992 in the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society.

    Too Much Protein

    So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbohydrates for a protein-dominant diet, Butterfield says. Drastically cutting carbohydrates from your diet may force your body to fight back.

    She says that's because a diet in which protein makes up more than 30% of your caloric intake causes a buildup of toxic ketones. So-called ketogenic diets can thrust your kidneys into overdrive in order to flush these ketones from your body. As your kidneys rid your body of these toxic ketones, you can lose a significant amount of water, which puts you at risk of dehydration, particularly if you exercise heavily.

    That water loss often shows up on the scale as weight loss. But along with losing water, you lose muscle mass and bone calcium. The dehydration also strains your kidneys and puts stress on your heart.

    And dehydration from a ketogenic diet can make you feel weak and dizzy, give you bad breath, or lead to other problems.
    How Much Protein Do I Need?

    The amount of protein you require depends on your weight and your daily caloric intake. Most Americans consume more than enough protein in their daily diets. A few specific groups of people are at risk for being protein-deficient, including elderly women and people with illnesses or eating disorders. A protein deficiency is defined as eating 50% to 75% of the recommended amount of daily protein, Butterfield explains.

    Ideally, you should consume 0.36 grams of protein for every pound of body weight, according to recommended daily allowances (RDA) set by the Food and Nutrition Board. So if you weigh 170 pounds, you need about 61 grams of protein each day.

    Protein should also make up approximately 15% of your total daily caloric intake, also according to the RDA. In a diet of 1,800 calories a day, for example, about 270 of those calories should come from protein.
    It's Essential

    Although limiting protein intake is important, you should also realize that protein is essential to our bodies' normal functions. It assists in synthesizing enzymes and hormones, maintaining fluid balance, and regulating such vital functions as building antibodies against infection, blood clotting, and scar formation.

    Protein is also a building block for our muscles, bones, cartilage, skin, hair, and blood. Protein-rich foods include meat, cheese, milk, fish, and eggs. For vegetarians, protein can be found in soy products such as tofu as well as in combinations of foods, such as rice or corn with beans.

    Whether you are an avid strength trainer, a marathon runner, or just an average exerciser, a balanced diet that is rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, fish, and complex carbohydrates is what nutritionists recommend.
    This is great for the average person. We have had this discussion many times. BBers require a lot more.

    Quote Originally Posted by collar View Post
    ????
    we were not meant to live as long as we do. 35 is old.

    Quote Originally Posted by thomaskstewart View Post
    More than an average of 60 grams of protein a day will lead to Osteoporosis.
    from shakes, need the rest of the nutrients
    Protein is acidic (at high levels) and especially to your bones.

    My doctor told me today that protein shakes are the problem. They lack the fundamental building blocks which keep this acidity from happening... Protein shakes are processed...
    good answer here
    Getting protein from food will generally help this from happening however too much protein IE 2x body weight won't help by any means no matter where you get it from.
    tell this to Greene
    BTW has anyone seen a 90 yr old body builder???? I didn't think so... hmmm...
    at my old gym one fellow was over 80
    bold

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    I agree with ya twist mate, although it is interesting.

    We look good on the outside, but on the inside we are a ticking time bomb, waiting to drop.

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