Please anyone HELP!!??

[davidreilly]

Hello this is my first post as you can see and i just turned 18 a few days ago. I recently just came off a cycle of anavar and proviro. i did it for 8weeks and im just about to go onto my pct cycle of aromasin,nolvadex and hcg. I just want to know what harm ive done to my self as i just stumbled upon this website and ive read the threads of other people my age and the horrors of starting aas to early. so basically i really need to know what anavar and proivorn have done to my body?

[D7M]

No way to really know without getting bloodwork. What doses did you run them at?

And for your pct, I'd drop the aromasin and HCG and use novla/clomid.

[Nooomoto]

Damn dude...when you're done with PCT you should go to the doc and get your levels checked. I knew a dude that cycled when he was your age...he's got a puffy child's body (with boobs) with a big ape head now. We are in our upper 20's now.

[davidreilly]

i did 80mg of var and 60mg of the proviron. i heard that var was bairley suppressive and dangerous is that true? might i be lucky?

[MotoLifter]

Hello this is my first post as you can see and i just turned 18 a few days ago. I recently just came off a cycle of anavar and proviro. i did it for 8weeks and im just about to go onto my pct cycle of aromasin,nolvadex and hcg. I just want to know what harm ive done to my self as i just stumbled upon this website and ive read the threads of other people my age and the horrors of starting aas to early. so basically i really need to know what anavar and proivorn have done to my body?

stumbled onto the site alittle too late huh. well, better late than never. keep reading and hopefully your next go round (years from now) will be better.

Blood work is the last word in what kind of damage youve done to yourself if any.


Moto

[FranciscoG]

No way to really know without getting bloodwork. What doses did you run them at?

And for your pct, I'd drop the aromasin and HCG and use novla/clomid.

I agree he needs blood work.

As for the post cycle, to the OP, avoid estrogen like a cancer. Estrogen will cause your epiphyseal plates to prematurely stop your vertical growth.

Avoid the clomid and hcg. Stick to nolv alone.

[davidreilly]

I agree he needs blood work.

As for the post cycle, to the OP, avoid estrogen like a cancer. Estrogen will cause your epiphyseal plates to prematurely stop your vertical growth.

Avoid the clomid and hcg. Stick to nolv alone.

ok so would hcg not be useful? and isnt anavar not dangerous?

[D7M]

I agree he needs blood work.

As for the post cycle, to the OP, avoid estrogen like a cancer. Estrogen will cause your epiphyseal plates to prematurely stop your vertical growth.

Avoid the clomid and hcg. Stick to nolv alone.

Very good point, Cyrus. Thanks....

[FranciscoG]

ok so would hcg not be useful? and isnt anavar not dangerous?

HCG is actually great for fertility, clomid is also good-not great- for fertility.

The issue is upon administration of hcg there is conversion to estrogen. Generally people that nolv to stop this conversion, however nolv is not 100% effective in stopping the body from secriting estrogen.

Clomid is considered a week estrogen and works via the feed back mechanizm to force the body to produce testostrone.

Estrogen will effect vertical growth-

[davidreilly]

HCG is actually great for fertility, clomid is also good-not great- for fertility.

The issue is upon administration of hcg there is conversion to estrogen. Generally people that nolv to stop this conversion, however nolv is not 100% effective in stopping the body from secriting estrogen.

Clomid is considered a week estrogen and works via the feed back mechanizm to force the body to produce testostrone.

Estrogen will effect vertical growth-

has the anavar stunted my growth?

[FranciscoG]

If its real anavar, no.

[davidreilly]

yh i cant state my source but yes it is definetly legitamte. ive read on the steroid page that anavar is a very mild steroid that doesnt effect the hpta! if so what is the problem with that and teen usage?

[FranciscoG]

Mental and emotional development is affected by use of androgens at a young age.

The negative feed backs that cause your body to produce estroge post cycle will stunt your growth.

To you androgens when you are not fully developed is to risk that development.

The issue is the male brain also at age 18 going through hormal highs and lows will affect one.

And, it is not true that anavar will not affect hpta. Any androgen on the long term will affect hpta.