Newbie...go easy!

[boyoboyo]

Im currently doing as much research as I can on AAS and Pct's, looking at possibly running a cycle in a 3-4 months time if im content witht the info iv gained.
With that said one problem I have with using is needles...big issue for me.
Can anyone recomend any decent oral only cycles?

[Phate]

Im currently doing as much research as I can on AAS and Pct's, looking at possibly running a cycle in a 3-4 months time if im content witht the info iv gained.
With that said one problem I have with using is needles...big issue for me.
Can anyone recomend any decent oral only cycles?

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what's your problem with needles?

[firsttimer555]

Orals are very hard on your liver with all cycles

[Phate]

Orals are very hard on your liver especially for a first cycle

all orals?

does the liver toxicity decrease as cycle experience goes up?

[PistolStarta]

all orals?

does the liver toxicity decrease as cycle experience goes up?

everyone knows knowledge slows liver breakdown.

[boyoboyo]

age
weight
height
bf%
training exp

what's your problem with needles?

22
190 lbs
5'11
8-10%
2 years trainign exp

its a bad phobia of mine, literally my only one.

[firsttimer555]

sorry i fixed it

[nilrac]

Orals are very hard on your liver especially for a first cycle

This is not good advice.

Hepatoxicity depends on particular compound, particular dosage, particular cycle duration and particular person... how they react to said compound. First cycle also probably equals a healthier, stronger liver logically speaking.

@ Original poster
I would wait another few years before cycling. You still have time to grow naturally.

[Phate]

everyone knows knowledge slows liver breakdown.

ding ding ding, we have a winner lol

22
190 lbs
5'11
8-10%
2 years trainign exp

its a bad phobia of mine, literally my only one.

well the only good oral cycle IMO is var/tbol, but personally if i were u i would do this

get a bottle of b vitamin complex(injectable) and a few 30, 28, and 25 gauge syringes and needles

start with the 30 gauge(they are insulin syringes and very small) and give yourself a subQ injection(just under the fat), then progress from there slowly, after a while you will have no problem

the fear in needles is not in the pain(because most of the time it doesn't hurt much at all) but in the apprehension and anticipation of the pain

sorry i fixed it

it's all good man, i was just having some fun

[RANA]

22
190 lbs
5'11
8-10%
2 years trainign exp

its a bad phobia of mine, literally my only one.

You are too young, give it a couple of years. Right now you have so much natural test in your body that you could easily grow with the right diet and workout

[Bossman]

ding ding ding, we have a winner lol



well the only good oral cycle IMO is var/tbol, but personally if i were u i would do this

get a bottle of b vitamin complex(injectable) and a few 30, 28, and 25 gauge syringes and needles

start with the 30 gauge(they are insulin syringes and very small) and give yourself a subQ injection(just under the fat), then progress from there slowly, after a while you will have no problem

the fear in needles is not in the pain(because most of the time it doesn't hurt much at all) but in the apprehension and anticipation of the pain

Interesting advice. My first injectable was IGF with an insulin needle. So very easy to do. That did ease my apprehension a bit when I did my first glute injection with a 1-1/2" 23 g some time later.

[boyoboyo]

ding ding ding, we have a winner lol



well the only good oral cycle IMO is var/tbol, but personally if i were u i would do this

get a bottle of b vitamin complex(injectable) and a few 30, 28, and 25 gauge syringes and needles

start with the 30 gauge(they are insulin syringes and very small) and give yourself a subQ injection(just under the fat), then progress from there slowly, after a while you will have no problem

the fear in needles is not in the pain(because most of the time it doesn't hurt much at all) but in the apprehension and anticipation of the pain



it's all good man, i was just having some fun

thanks for the advice, makes a lot of sense.
I presume var is short for anavar?
and for the people who say im to young, persoanlly id disagree as long as i gain good knowledge i dont see my age as an issue, not like im 16-18.

[RANA]

thanks for the advice, makes a lot of sense.
I presume var is short for anavar?
and for the people who say im to young, persoanlly id disagree as long as i gain good knowledge i dont see my age as an issue, not like im 16-18.

I agree, with knowledge you will realize that you should wait a couple of years, by all means take AAS

[Phate]

Interesting advice. My first injectable was IGF with an insulin needle. So very easy to do. That did ease my apprehension a bit when I did my first glute injection with a 1-1/2" 23 g some time later.

i just thought of it and figured it might help, i know alot of people(one on this site) who had an extreme fear of needles(poor guy would pass out if he saw one), and i used the same trick with him, except i did the first couple injections, now he's even completed a 10 week prop cycle

thanks for the advice, makes a lot of sense.
I presume var is short for anavar?
and for the people who say im to young, persoanlly id disagree as long as i gain good knowledge i dont see my age as an issue, not like im 16-18.

yeah, var is anavar

I agree, with knowledge you will realize that you should wait a couple of years, by all means take AAS

agreed, i would wait a few years as well

[E Police 183]

Age how nothing to do with you having no knowledge..it has to do with your body and test levels...it may not be what you want to hear but its GREAT advice

[CanYouDigIt]

if you do a cycle of any oral for 3-4 months, kiss your liver good bye,

shouldn't say any oral, but strong orals.

[boyoboyo]

if you do a cycle of any oral for 3-4 months, kiss your liver good bye,

shouldn't say any oral, but strong orals.

how about a var & tbol cycle?

[PistolStarta]

how about a var & tbol cycle?

those are the two safest but their still going to mess with all your levels, sex drive, everything.

[boyoboyo]

those are the two safest but their still going to mess with all your levels, sex drive, everything.

how much more so, than say a similar injectable cycle?

[PistolStarta]

how much more so, than say a similar injectable cycle?

go read up on them in the steroid profiles, it'll give you info.