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    Blood clotting and AAS

    Hi,

    I started powerlifting at the end of seventies, and have been going to the gym on and off
    since. Some breaks as long as 5 years.

    Had all nice and going until last autumn when i
    was diagnosed bad tendon tear in my left shoulder. One month after surgery i got lung
    embolia due to the immobility and op.

    Now i am starting all from basically from the scratch again. I am using warfarin now to prevent from clotting, quitted smoking, and started wearing compression socks.

    Clotting that led to embolia in my left lung was partly due to the shoulder op, and partly due to a mutation in my blood cells. This mutation makes it only slightly more propable to suffer from clotting, so i do not need to use warfarin after 6 mos.

    Has anyone had to consider clotting while using aas, and how have you handled the situation? Anything particular i shoud try to avoid. I know that hydration should be extremely good. Also, the rbc i manage with
    blood suction service from the back. (Done in sauna as a traditional health service)

    I started using aas four years ago quite modestly, and managed to get a quite a nice figure to my age (b 1959).
    Bodyweight at 200 with 11 % fat.

    I am starting my first blast ( i am cruising with 200 mg test cyp all the time)
    with tren ace and test prop 8 weeks.
    Prami and arimidex added.

    Thanx frds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkkutorni View Post
    Hi,

    I started powerlifting at the end of seventies, and have been going to the gym on and off
    since. Some breaks as long as 5 years.

    Had all nice and going until last autumn when i
    was diagnosed bad tendon tear in my left shoulder. One month after surgery i got lung
    embolia due to the immobility and op.

    Now i am starting all from basically from the scratch again. I am using warfarin now to prevent from clotting, quitted smoking, and started wearing compression socks.

    Clotting that led to embolia in my left lung was partly due to the shoulder op, and partly due to a mutation in my blood cells. This mutation makes it only slightly more propable to suffer from clotting, so i do not need to use warfarin after 6 mos.

    Has anyone had to consider clotting while using aas, and how have you handled the situation? Anything particular i shoud try to avoid. I know that hydration should be extremely good. Also, the rbc i manage with
    blood suction service from the back. (Done in sauna as a traditional health service)

    I started using aas four years ago quite modestly, and managed to get a quite a nice figure to my age (b 1959).
    Bodyweight at 200 with 11 % fat.

    I am starting my first blast ( i am cruising with 200 mg test cyp all the time)
    with tren ace and test prop 8 weeks.
    Prami and arimidex added.

    Thanx frds
    What was your gene mutation? I have Factor V Leiden and polycythemia vera. Coumadin/warfarin had no effect on my PT/INR even @ max dosage.
    I'm not familiar with controlling RBC via the method you mentioned, but I do donate blood @ every opportunity ( people with Factor V are allowed to donate) and occasionally self-phlebotomize.
    Last edited by almostgone; 05-19-2015 at 05:26 AM.
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    Thanks mate, my mutation is APC resistence.
    Did you get any warnings from your doc concerning AAS usage.
    The traditional blood drawing method is only used in my country.
    It is done by small cuts and suction cups at the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkkutorni View Post
    Thanks mate, my mutation is APC resistence.
    Did you get any warnings from your doc concerning AAS usage.
    The traditional blood drawing method is only used in my country.
    It is done by small cuts and suction cups at the back.
    She and I discussed the risks, but she agreed to put me on TRT, although it isn't a very modern protocol. I stay on top of my hematocrit values and either donate if possible or self phlebotomize if needed. She will write me a script for a therapeutic draw so I could have blood drawn in between donations, but it sucks to pay them to draw your blood and then dispose of it as medical waste since it was not part of a regular donation.
    If you are cycling, stay on top of your hematocrit values. Personally, IF I were to run a cycle, it would be a very light one and tren would definitely not be a part of it.
    But yes, there are risks associated with those prone to clotting. My hematologist/oncologist is dead set against my TRT, but I disagree with him.

    Also, you may want to Google aromotase inhibitors and SERMS and clotting. There is some discussion that people at risk for.clotting are at a greater risk when using these.
    Last edited by almostgone; 05-19-2015 at 07:06 AM.
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    Testosterone even in low doses (200mg/week) has been shown to double certain clotting factors.

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