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    ED problems from cycle?! WTF

    OK. Heres what is going on. I did a cycle of sust and e-stane like maybe 2 months ago. I have been on letro and nolvadex and finasteride till now. My nads are of right size and i feel recoovered. When on PCT, i dont really get too horney, and morning wood is usually not there. Expected. Anyway, i just stopped taking my pct, as of 3 days ago. The past 2 nights, i have hooked up with the chick, who i find very attractive. So we try and fuq in a car, and im not sure what it is, but i cannot get hard enough to do the deed. I will admit that i was stressing about getting caught or something, since we were just parked on some street. So i thought this was a fluke. Then, the next night, the chick basically asks me if i want to f. Obviously, yes. So i try again, in the back of a tiny ass car, and get somewhat hard, only to lose it as the condom is getting put on.

    What the fuq?! this shit has NEVER happened before. This chick is smoking, and i WANT to nail her, but my shit is not working?! Is it anxiety? can i not do it in a little car? I dont think it is either, because normally i can. I just dont get this, embarrasing as hell when i just met this girl. Shouls i get back on the nolva, would that help? Perhaps i have too much rebound estrogen floating around since quitting pct? Maybe i should just get back on test, because it turns me into an animal.

    I am looking at sildenafil and tadalafil. This is just bullshit, i cannot live like this and i need to bang this girl. For my own pleasure, and so i dont feel like a fukn failure who cant do it. Do these compounds work well? Someone help me out, becuase this situation REALLY sucks bad.
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    What is e-stane?
    did you use clomid for PCT?
    How long was your cycle for and what were the dosages?

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    10 week cycle, 500mg/wk. Estane is a designer steroid, very effective in my book. 50mg /day i beleive. I did not use clomid. only letro, nolva, and finasteride.

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    estane letro and fina and your wondering why your peepee wont work?

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    i stopped taking all that, so that i could have sex again. Apparently that is not the case?

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    Letro is the main culprits here. You need time to recover from letro rebound. Why did you run letro for pct? gyno? Why no clomid??

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    And let me reiterate that i am horny, and want to nail this chick SO FN BAD, it not like i think she is ugly or i am just not horny. My junk just wont preform, i just dont get it and it is really shitty.

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    gyno yes. I typically never used clomid cuz it made me all emotional and crazy feeling. Never had any problems not using it.

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    its gonna take some time for things to get back to normal. viagra and the like can be useful for your predicament. estane is suppressive on estro. letro even more so. and then you cut DHT levels as well. all of which are necessary for proper weiner function.

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    Give your body time to make the adjustments. In the meantime get some viagra bro. Dont start runnin test again until youve totally recovered.

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    IDK bro but with the letro I would bet your estro is all out of wack and prob a problem.

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    so would a small dose of nolva be advisable? for the time being?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadpoleboyy View Post
    so would a small dose of nolva be advisable? for the time being?
    In your case you should be running nolva two weeks after last letro dose to keep your gyno from flaring up from estro rebound from the letro.

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    Personaly, I would stay on the nolva because you will be getting some rebound. As for your female freind can you get your hand on some cialis or viagra? Other than that I would say take some dhea and tribulas and see how that treats you.

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    yes i am going to order some. I am desperate. after trying 2 times and failing, its awkard and embarrasing. I also am really interested in this chick, not just for sex. And so far not be able to preform is starting to kill my chances at a relationship. Plus, i really want to have sex.

    What is a recommended nolva dose? 10, 20, 40mg? Does nolva ever have a negative effect on erection or preformance?

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    Cialis gives me painfully hard erections for the next 3-4 days after I take it. I would look into this.

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    when you say painful, is that bad, or are you suggesting that it is just very effective? Would viagra be a better choice than cialis?

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    Your 3 days into PCT or have done PCT 3 days ago?

    Look into cialis and viagra.

    ED is a side effect of low/little endogenous testosterone?

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    Cialis is better. Lasts three days. Viagra only last 8 - 10 hours.

    Try it, you'll never bang without it.

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    cialis vote, for the win!

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    3 days off. I was on PCT for like 2 month just to make sure shit was restored. I have been off cycle longer than i have been on, perhaps i should just get some test. I took 20mg of nolva today, since i am guessing i am having some massive letro related estro rebound. Although i would figure that maybe there would be some finasteride related DHT rebound, which would actually help me? Perhaps this doesnt exist.

    I suspect estrogen rebound, becuase quite frankly i am experience tender nips and shit that happens with too much estro. I dont think it is from lack of endogenous test - i have maintained 180 for a few weeks now and am cut as shit, six pack obliques and all that. I just think my estro is going nuts. Perhaps even too much testosterone is being made, converting to more estrogen.

    Any advice w/ regards to the cialis or viagra? Suggestions? Do you think this shit will work? I mean i get hard and stuff during foreplay, but when it comes to putting on the condom i just totally lose it. Maybe because condoms suck... But dont want kids ya kno?


    EDIT: i just read that the half life for letro is 2 days. For some reason i thought it was less. So i have been using it for more than a month, perhaps i just need to wait longer for it to clear? And take a low dose nolva for the rebound for a week or two?
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    If you get erections and stuff then you might just be mind-****ing yourself from sex.. Sounds like its a mental issue thats keeping you from the promised land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swifto View Post
    your 3 days into pct or have done pct 3 days ago?

    Look into cialis and viagra.

    Ed is a side effect of low/little endogenous testosterone?
    agreed and you should have used hcg.

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    i have never had any mental issue before regarding sex and its effect of preformance. I have enough self esteem and ego for 2 people... although now i am starting to mind**** myself thinking about why the fck this is happening.. so maybe i do now? I mean i know what im doing when it comes to messin around, and have no doubts about my ability. Its just like it wont work. So frusterating. Even whackn it, its not as hard as it should be. That cant be mental...

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    Cialis is much better than viagra (just cuz lasts so much longer). And yes I meant painful hard erections in a good way earlier. If you have the will to have sex cialis should give you the means to do so. Was the letro stopped just 3 days ago as well? If so could be another week or two of ed from my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadpoleboyy View Post
    3 days off. I was on PCT for like 2 month just to make sure shit was restored. I have been off cycle longer than i have been on, perhaps i should just get some test. I took 20mg of nolva today, since i am guessing i am having some massive letro related estro rebound. Although i would figure that maybe there would be some finasteride related DHT rebound, which would actually help me? Perhaps this doesnt exist.

    I suspect estrogen rebound, becuase quite frankly i am experience tender nips and shit that happens with too much estro. I dont think it is from lack of endogenous test - i have maintained 180 for a few weeks now and am cut as shit, six pack obliques and all that. I just think my estro is going nuts. Perhaps even too much testosterone is being made, converting to more estrogen.
    Any advice w/ regards to the cialis or viagra? Suggestions? Do you think this shit will work? I mean i get hard and stuff during foreplay, but when it comes to putting on the condom i just totally lose it. Maybe because condoms suck... But dont want kids ya kno?


    EDIT: i just read that the half life for letro is 2 days. For some reason i thought it was less. So i have been using it for more than a month, perhaps i just need to wait longer for it to clear? And take a low dose nolva for the rebound for a week or two?
    Thats exactly what an estrogenic rebound is.

    Lowered estrogen = increased testosterone. One then stops the AI/SERM and there is no longer estrogen antagonism. Because of the increased testosterone level and no estrogen antagonism, estrogen sky rockets (rebound).

    I'd like to see your bloodwork.

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    That sucks man goodluck but yeah for sure it was the letro from all that I have read it takes away from your lebido, thee esance, what the french call a certain I dont know what but thats what did it for you my friend.

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    cialis for sure..

    also get some ZMA tribulus long jack or horny goat weed.

    do some squats and anerobic cardio.. put some stress on muscle so it will release the hormones.

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    have her wear a football helmet and some shoulder pads, might do the trick

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    Thats exactly what an estrogenic rebound is.

    Lowered estrogen = increased testosterone. One then stops the AI/SERM and there is no longer estrogen antagonism. Because of the increased testosterone level and no estrogen antagonism, estrogen sky rockets (rebound).

    I'd like to see your bloodwork.
    I could have sworn i read somewhere that there is also an increase in the expression of that enzyme (aromatase), along with increased production of test, bot factors leading to massive surge in estro. I would love to see my bloodwork too, but i am currently waiting for my insurance to go thru, i have been uninsured for a while now but luckily got a good job.

    cialis for sure..

    also get some ZMA tribulus long jack or horny goat weed.

    do some squats and anerobic cardio.. put some stress on muscle so it will release the hormones.
    Yea i ordered cialis and viagra, we will see what works better, or even use both if need be. I got one more chance, if i cant make it happen, shit, i dont even know. Total embarrasment. I will then attempt to explain why this is happening to her, hopefully she is down with steroids. I have been taking multivitamins, zinc, fish oil, and melatonin b4 bed.


    have her wear a football helmet and some shoulder pads, might do the trick
    What the hell are you talking about? I dont get it... I that like a joke that i may be gay?

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    Yes pretty sure he was implying that you may be

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    might as well be a guy, i have never seen such drive in a woman, and she is fvckin aggressive biting and weird rough sex... usually involves some sort of pain. Never had that happen b4. First night i went home with a giant bruised lip like i had gotten punched... nope purposely bit me. Totally down for it tho...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadpoleboyy View Post
    I could have sworn i read somewhere that there is also an increase in the expression of that enzyme (aromatase), along with increased production of test, bot factors leading to massive surge in estro.
    That is correct.

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