which AAS cause nut shrinkage?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

would it be all of them? hence the term, "shut down?"

Does that include dbol causing nut shrinkage?

[tboney]

All of them have the potential to cause testicular atrophy................

[zaneisgreat]

would it be all of them? hence the term, "shut down?"

Does that include dbol causing nut shrinkage?

Money Shot

[toothache]

All of them can cause nut shrinkage.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Money Shot

oh snapppp PMed

[Chev]

This is going to be a big arguement..... lol

Id say orals more on the no side.

[Phate]

This is going to be a big arguement..... lol

Id say orals more on the no side.

argument started lol

i'd say anything that interferes with the hypothalamus's production of releasing factors, which cause the release of Leutinizing Hormone and Follicle Stimulating Hormone, thus shutting down testosterone production in the interstitial cells of Leydig and Spermatogenesis in the Seminiferous Tubules will cause testicular atrophy as the testes are no longer needed and thus are a drain on the body's ATP stores

[Tyler694]

This is going to be a big arguement..... lol

Id say orals more on the no side.

I generally experience it less on orals, but the liver/lipid/etc damage is not worth it in the end. Just pin and run proper PCT!

[Knockout_Power]

argument started lol

i'd say anything that interferes with the hypothalamus's production of releasing factors, which cause the release of Leutinizing Hormone and Follicle Stimulating Hormone, thus shutting down testosterone production in the interstitial cells of Leydig and Spermatogenesis in the Seminiferous Tubules will cause testicular atrophy as the testes are no longer needed and thus are a drain on the body's ATP stores

I have to stay out of this one now that the words have gotten bigger than 5 letters... damn smart people

[Chev]

argument started lol

i'd say anything that interferes with the hypothalamus's production of releasing factors, which cause the release of Leutinizing Hormone and Follicle Stimulating Hormone, thus shutting down testosterone production in the interstitial cells of Leydig and Spermatogenesis in the Seminiferous Tubules will cause testicular atrophy as the testes are no longer needed and thus are a drain on the body's ATP stores

All i saw was ATP.... can you repete? lol

[AlphaMaleDawg]

well I am currently 3 1/2 weeks in a test, deca, and dbol cycle and just started to notice some nut shrinkage. I want to think it's because of the deca but wouldn't those kinds of sides not appear yet this soon? This is why I think the dbol might be causing it.

thoughts?

[Knockout_Power]

what dose of dbol? In some it causes shrinkage very early in a cycle and from low doses like 25ed. All those compounds can cause it individually so its hard to narrow it down.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

doses

dbol 40mg
test 625mg
deca 400mg

yea I feel like its hard to determine what the cause is but I am unsure if this particular side would strike this soon with test e and deca

[Knockout_Power]

Hard to say, Im just ending week 5 of Test P @ 600/wk and Deca @ 500/wk and no sign of shrinkage yet. Each person is affected differently, wish it was as easy as just saying "this is this, that is that"

[AlphaMaleDawg]

yea man I figured it would be tough to know for sure. My only previous cycle experience is test only at 500mg and dont really recall getting much nut shrinkage.

btw what is the name of the chick in your avatar and are those real?

[killagorilla187]

I just tested oral tren and that was harsher on nuts than anything else ive used, worse than test/tbol/winny for a much longer cycle.

Also Hcg will boost them back fast!

[JimInAK]

I took HCG during my last cycle, 250iu every 3 days... and noticed NO nut shrinkage.

I don't do heavy cycles though... last one was just 375mg test e and 200mg deca/week for about 12 weeks, along with HGH which I take daily.

[Phate]

well I am currently 3 1/2 weeks in a test, deca, and dbol cycle and just started to notice some nut shrinkage. I want to think it's because of the deca but wouldn't those kinds of sides not appear yet this soon? This is why I think the dbol might be causing it.

thoughts?

it's a combination but mostly the deca, remember that a single 100mg shot of deca will shot you down COMPLETELY for up to a month, 19nor derivatives are the most potent as far as shutdown is concerned

[AlphaMaleDawg]

it's a combination but mostly the deca, remember that a single 100mg shot of deca will shot you down COMPLETELY for up to a month, 19nor derivatives are the most potent as far as shutdown is concerned

you think it was the deca even though I am only 3 1/2 weeks in? It can do that in that short of a period of time, despite the long esther?

[Phate]

you think it was the deca even though I am only 3 1/2 weeks in? It can do that in that short of a period of time, despite the long esther?

yes, reread what i put, one shot can completely shut you down, you'd had 16x as much as in the example i provided, a few days after you took your first injection of deca your testes stopped producing testosterone and sperm, after that its only a matter of time before your body atrophys them since they are just using energy with no function and thus are evolutionarily useless

[AlphaMaleDawg]

yes, reread what i put, one shot can completely shut you down, you'd had 16x as much as in the example i provided, a few days after you took your first injection of deca your testes stopped producing testosterone and sperm, after that its only a matter of time before your body atrophys them since they are just using energy with no function and thus are evolutionarily useless

thanks makes perfect sense to me