oxygen!

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so i been in this game for many many years. i decided to try sucking on some oxygen before and after i workout. i just had my doc write me a script for my headaches. i am sure i'm not the first to try this but i gotta tell you.... i am so much stronger in the gym and my pumps after are crazy! i know i know i know... i thought obviously oxygen will help but i never expected this. anyone else???

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[HDH]

[sellersis]

But really, I may try this!

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like i said....i know i know....... but i'm telling you it is a huge difference for me. and yes "on" cycle. btw i'm in the "mile high" city so. i wanted to think it's just coincidence but i have tried not using any oxy and on the third day without i notice i am back where i was. i can't explain but i hope one of you guys try's it. i want to hear others experience. again the biggest difference is the "pump" amazing!!!

[Phate]

like i said....i know i know....... but i'm telling you it is a huge difference for me. and yes "on" cycle. btw i'm in the "mile high" city so. i wanted to think it's just coincidence but i have tried not using any oxy and on the third day without i notice i am back where i was. i can't explain but i hope one of you guys try's it. i want to hear others experience. again the biggest difference is the "pump" amazing!!!

If you are going to be exercising for more than a couple of minutes, your body needs to get oxygen to the muscles or the muscles will stop working. Just how much oxygen your muscles will use depends on two processes: getting blood to the muscles and extracting oxygen from the blood into the muscle tissue. Your working muscles can take oxygen out of the blood three times as well as your resting muscles. Your body has several ways to increase the flow of oxygen-rich blood to working muscle:

* increased local blood flow to the working muscle
* diversion of blood flow from nonessential organs to the working muscle
* increased flow of blood from the heart (cardiac output)
* increased rate and depth of breathing
* increased unloading of oxygen from hemoglobin in working muscle

­ These mechanisms can increase the blood flow to your working muscle by almost five times. That means that the amount of oxygen available to the working muscle can be increased by almost 15 times! (http://health.howstuffworks.com/sports-physiology7.htm by Craig Freudenrich, Ph.D.)

From the above article you can see why your pumps, as well as strength were increased. You are used to functioning at an altitude that has around 17% less oxygen than at sea level, which puts you in a constant mild hypoxic state. The addition of pure oxygen would then increase the oxygen content in your blood(oxygen is bound to Fe2+(iron ions) to form hemoglobin) which would allow you to cause supramaximal contrations compared to your normal hypoxic contrations. The article below was performed on people with mitochondria myopathy, but the results still provide good insight.




Michael I. Trenell1, 2, 5 Contact Information, Carolyn M. Sue1, Campbell H. Thompson3 and Graham J. Kemp4
(1) Department of Neurogenetics, Kolling Institute for Medical Research, Sydney, Australia
(2) School of Molecular and Microbial Bioscience, University of Sydney, Sydney, Australia
(3) Department of Medicine, Flinders University of South Australia, Adelaide, SA, Australia
(4) Division of Metabolic and Cellular Medicine, University of Liverpool, Liverpool, UK
(5) Newcastle Magnetic Resonance Centre, School of Clinical Medical Sciences, University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, UK

Accepted: 27 November 2006 Published online: 12 January 2007
Abstract Patients with mitochondrial myopathy (MM) have a reduced capacity to perform exercise due to a reduced oxidative capacity. We undertook this study to determine whether skeletal muscle metabolism could be improved with oxygen therapy in patients with MM. Six patients with MM and six controls, matched for age, gender and physical activity, underwent 31P-magnetic resonance spectroscopy (31P-MRS) examination. 31P-MR spectra were collected at rest and in series during exercise and recovery whilst breathing normoxic (0.21 O2) or hyperoxic (1.0 O2) air. At rest, MM showed an elevated [ADP] (18 ± 3 μmol/l) and pH (7.03 ± 0.01) in comparison to the control group (12 ± 1 μmol/l, 7.01 ± 0.01) (P < 0.05) consistent with mitochondrial dysfunction. Oxygen supplementation did not change resting metabolites in either MM or the control group (P > 0.05). Inferred maximal ATP synthesis rate improved by 33% with oxygen in MM (21 ± 3 vs. 28 ± 5 mmol/(l min), P < 0.05) but only improved by 5% in controls (40 ± 3 vs. 42 ± 3 mmol/(l min), P > 0.05). We conclude that oxygen therapy is associated with significant improvements in muscle metabolism in patients with MM. These data suggest that patients with MM could benefit from therapies which improve the provision of oxygen.

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nice info Phate, yes i understand the whole theory behind it that's exactly why i tried it in the first place. what blows my mind is how well it seems to be working. i mean seriously i'm getting better pumps on oxygen than ever did on D-bol....crazy

[legobricks]

Next cycle for me

Test 300mg per week
Tren 700mg per week
Jumpstarting with OXYGEN split into 2 doses, 1 before and 1 after workout.

[Phate]

nice info Phate, yes i understand the whole theory behind it that's exactly why i tried it in the first place. what blows my mind is how well it seems to be working. i mean seriously i'm getting better pumps on oxygen than ever did on D-bol....crazy

i agree, i've heard of a place(i don't know if it's still around) that was using electrical stimulation during exercise to increase muscle contractile strength(they would put electrodes over the nerves innervating the muscle worked and using stimuli coupled with the subject exerting force to increase the number of muscle fibers firing, thus increasing the breakdown and subsequent hypertrophy of the muscle), after which they would have the subject sleep in an oxygen pressure tank which forced oxygen into the body, supposedly allowing for complete recovery overnight

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i agree, i've heard of a place(i don't know if it's still around) that was using electrical stimulation during exercise to increase muscle contractile strength(they would put electrodes over the nerves innervating the muscle worked and using stimuli coupled with the subject exerting force to increase the number of muscle fibers firing, thus increasing the breakdown and subsequent hypertrophy of the muscle), after which they would have the subject sleep in an oxygen pressure tank which forced oxygen into the body, supposedly allowing for complete recovery overnight

interesting...anyonelse on oxy?

[jeffefrijoles]

Can we get Lion to stock and sell Oxygen??!!

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Can we get Lion to stock and sell Oxygen??!!

lol... it really is very easy to get a script. i asked the oxygen supply shop (that i got mine from) they said it is getting very popular to combat headaches. no-one can prove if you have a headache or not

[aloha]

super important when thinking about working out, it can round off they way you think about going at it. like that new water

[MO MONEY MO MASS]

You dont have a link to that study do you Phate?

[stevey_6t9]

how much oxygen do u have?

dont have to much it causes free radicals

[MO MONEY MO MASS]

free radicals??? oxygen??? no way... really? prove it

Oh and smiler, how much are you breathing? if you dont mind me asking

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free radicals??? oxygen??? no way... really? prove it

Oh and smiler, how much are you breathing? if you dont mind me asking

my doc wrote the scrip i can take up to 10LPM for 3 to 5 mins at a time or as needed

[taiboxa]

my buddy n' i were just talkin about this the other day.. of having a gym that pumps a higher concentration of O2 into the ducts

[wormwood]

Getting rid of CO2 during exercise is actually more of a pressing issue then increasing oxygen. The increased drive to breathe during exercise has more to do with your body wanting to expell excess CO2 than to take in more oxygen. That's why when you hold your breath (underwater for example) the first thing you do when you come up is breathe out, not in.

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Getting rid of CO2 during exercise is actually more of a pressing issue then increasing oxygen. The increased drive to breathe during exercise has more to do with your body wanting to expell excess CO2 than to take in more oxygen. That's why when you hold your breath (underwater for example) the first thing you do when you come up is breathe out, not in.

umm ok.... but...ahhhh, hmmm

[dec11]

i used oxygen canisters when competing in plifting on comp days, did give me tht extra edge

[stevey_6t9]

free radicals??? oxygen??? no way... really? prove it

Oh and smiler, how much are you breathing? if you dont mind me asking

oxygen causes the oxidation of cells, oxidation is the loss of electrons causing a free radical.

[Phate]

You dont have a link to that study do you Phate?

it was an article in a magazine i read 4-5 years ago, but i'll search around the net for it

[smiler]

my buddy n' i were just talkin about this the other day.. of having a gym that pumps a higher concentration of O2 into the ducts

cool, not sure that would work though, it'd have to be an "air tight" club. for that matter...a better way would simply be to compress it. but again the building would need to be super tight. that's how aircraft supply oxygen at altitude, compress it like crazy, same theory as a turbo charger for you wheels. so yea you could do it, i think it will be much less difficult to pressurize the building then to pump pure (or 98.5% pure) O2 through the ducts. i don't have the balls to bring a cylinder in the gym with me yet but perhaps it will be a fad one day lol

[wormwood]

umm ok.... but...ahhhh, hmmm

yeah I don't know

Just recalling stuff from the undergrad days...I think anyways lol

[HeavyHitter]

Good thread!! I started taking Aerobic O7 (oxygen) and i found it to be a great boost. Now that i read this thread, im going to supplement it all the time!

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Good thread!! I started taking Aerobic O7 (oxygen) and i found it to be a great boost. Now that i read this thread, im going to supplement it all the time!

lol perhaps soon guys will have our jugs of water and oxy bottles in the gym full time lol

[no1tou]

Getting rid of CO2 during exercise is actually more of a pressing issue then increasing oxygen. The increased drive to breathe during exercise has more to do with your body wanting to expell excess CO2 than to take in more oxygen. That's why when you hold your breath (underwater for example) the first thing you do when you come up is breathe out, not in.

Well actually I breathe out on my way up and then the first thing I do is breathe in. When you hold your breath you first have to breathe in as deep as possible so there is only one thing you can do at that point...breathe out.

Sorry my inner nerd made me say that. Or inner smartass take your pic.

[rsnake21]

i like it, thinkin outside the box. thats how u get ahead in this world, come up with shit before anyone else does

[dec11]

i like it, thinkin outside the box. thats how u get ahead in this world, come up with shit before anyone else does

can already buy canisters online, i used them 7yrs ago

[AlphaMaleDawg]

wait did you get an actual oxygen tank where you put that thing in your nose? How old are you if you dont mind me asking?

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oxygen is easy to get! if you want a script or not...there are tons of places the deal with gasses

[lovbyts]

It supposed to be good for hang overs also.

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It supposed to be good for hang overs also.

i know this for a fact! i spent a decade as an A&P in aviation. 737s for the most part. got a hangover?...jump in the pilots seat and suck it down from his mask, bout 5 mins later you feel like a 100 bucks. worked every time!

[dec11]

wait did you get an actual oxygen tank where you put that thing in your nose? How old are you if you dont mind me asking?

ypu can get cylinders of about 10" long which have a mouth piece tht you place in your mouth and press downwards and its released like an aerosol

[smiler]

ypu can get cylinders of about 10" long which have a mouth piece tht you place in your mouth and press downwards and its released like an aerosol

several methods...too many to list just look it up bro

[matt77]

ypu can get cylinders of about 10" long which have a mouth piece tht you place in your mouth and press downwards and its released like an aerosol

I saw an infomercial not to long ago selling small cans of O2 for use during exercise. Get yours now for 39.99 plus S&H!

[lovbyts]

NOT recommended because it's not medical/human grade but you can get canisters of oxygen at most hardware stores and supply houses for welding cheap.....

[dec11]

several methods...too many to list just look it up bro

yeah prob is now, it wa quite a few years ago when i used it, funnily enough i couldnt use it when going for my squats, the slight high from it dis-orientated me walking outa the stands lol

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yeah prob is now, it wa quite a few years ago when i used it, funnily enough i couldnt use it when going for my squats, the slight high from it dis-orientated me walking outa the stands lol

really? hmm interesting