short or long cycles???

[gettintherequick]

My best RETAINED gains have been from 4 week cycles of prohormones followed by clomid+Nolva Pct 4 weeks.

My best gains have been from test injections 10 weeks but nearly 0% retained after pct. I just don't retain much mass from any of my steroid cycles although some strength is retained.

So basically im askin what is your preferred length of cycle and using what? Have to say mine is using PH for 4 weeks PCT 4 weeks...for the simple reason of quicker recovery and more retained gains.

[redz]

Something is seriously wrong if you are keeping no gains from a test cycle. I like longer cycles, 12 weeks is my usual. This go around I am going to run it out to abour 15 weeks because I am running EQ.

[gettintherequick]

I ran test and eq for 10 weeks, nice gains but the eq had horrible sides kept crashing when i couldn't eat got all faint and dizzy to like when you haven't eatin in a while. This was due to a near constant hunger.

Dunno why i don't retain gains from test. Alot of ppl i know retain very little after cycle although i don't know there pct regime but mine is quite aggressive.

[redz]

What was your pct?

[bjohnson1968]

what is your diet like during pct

[Makiavelo76]

I went from 90 kg up to 112 kg in a 13 week period... I only go off for 2 - 4 weeks then start a less agresive cycle of boldenone for 10 weeks... soon will go for some Adrogenon cycle no need to stack with anything else... I keep my gains with some more roids... no pct... unless I go off to avoid side effects... but usually stay on most of the year! If you want to get really big that's what it takes!

[gettintherequick]

What was your pct?

clomid 100mg 10days - then 50mg for a further 10days
Nolva 20mg 4 weeks
Vitamin C 2g 4 weeks

Diet is the usual lowered appetitie after cycle but still around 5000cal and protein rich food 5 times a day or 6 if i can eat that much.

How much you guys keeping gains wise after pct??

[bjohnson1968]

not being a dick but Id liketo see your macros for your diet 1000 cals per meal
thats a ton

Peace