first time trying ass

[ballerson]

ok ppl, im 21 years old. im 6'3'' 220 with less than 10% body fat...im tryin to get huge for fball and fast. im getting ready to try a first cycle. i wanna stack test with something maybe deca, and follow up with a cutting agent. any suggestions on what i should do from a to z...im lookin for veterans to respond. also im lookin for minimal side affects so i guess less androgenic would be better.

[ferocious bubble]

you're too young for steroids. Learn to diet and to train.

[ferocious bubble]

and besides the thread title is "first time trying to get ass", not aas.

[ballerson]

I meant aas. U know wat i mean come on now. And how am i too young, ive been dieting and traingn hard but ive hit a severe plateau. I need this, i wanna play pro and its a short window, im not doing it for looks, im doing it to lift 350lb tackles off the ground

[Nooomoto]

Steroids won't make you pro, dude.

[Kibble]

you're too young for steroids. Learn to diet and to train.

Read his ****ing stats. He is 220 with under 10%bf. If that is true, then he obviously knows what he is doing.

[Kibble]

OP, the safest way to use steroids would be to wait until your HPTA is fully developed, which averages around age 25. That is why you will not get advice about AAS use. Nobody wants to advocate something that can cause damage to a developing endocrine system.

There are TONS of AAS cycle examples on this site, so study them- if you are going to use steroids

[ballerson]

obviously they wont, but i have the skill set to be pro, i just lack the natural bulk and strength coaches wanna see. and obviously most pros take them or took them at some point, if u dont agree with that statement ur just plain ignorant....and i cant wait til im 25 to do them cuz i only have a year or two left of college ball. its now or never for me

[Darksyde]

ass is pretty good, i recommend trying it as often as you can.

[sellersis]

You need to reverse your thinking bro! Its the LACK of ass that makes you a beast! Go for a few weeks without it and you'll not only be picking up 300lb tackles, you'll be trying to nail every 300lb chick that walks by

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I'm tired of seeing new guys who actually do lift and know their $hit not getting helped and having to deal with member parroting. op, check the stickies. a good starting cycle would be test-e at 500mg for 12 weeks. make sure you use nolva and clomid for pct

[AlphaMaleDawg]

you need to reverse your thinking bro! Its the lack of ass that makes you a beast! Go for a few weeks without it and you'll not only be picking up 300lb tackles, you'll be trying to nail every 300lb chick that walks by

lol'ed

[ballerson]

I KNOW ITS AAS not ASS, ITS CALLED A TYPO. UR NOT COMEDIANS, SO IF U DON’T HAVE HELPFUL TIPS, KEEP TRYING TO BE FUNNY AND KEEP FAILING AT IT SOMWHERE ELSE.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I KNOW ITS AAS not ASS, ITS CALLED A TYPO. UR NOT COMEDIANS, SO IF U DON’T HAVE HELPFUL TIPS, KEEP TRYING TO BE FUNNY AND KEEP FAILING AT IT SOMWHERE ELSE.

read my post. I gave you good advice

[2jz_calgary]

the first time i tried ass i thought it tasted rather funny.

[Bloodsaw]

and besides the thread title is "first time trying to get ass", not aas.

This coming from someone who is 18 years old hanging around a steroid forum....no problem with your age, but for YOU to be giving advise in big letters like that like you own the ****ing place? come on, you earn your status around here, dont just assume because hes newer than you that you are a ****ing vet

[ferocious bubble]

This coming from someone who is 18 years old hanging around a steroid forum....no problem with your age, but for YOU to be giving advise in big letters like that like you own the ****ing place? come on, you earn your status around here, dont just assume because hes newer than you that you are a ****ing vet

Anybody on this sight knows that you should be 25 years old at least to cycle!

[ballerson]

alpha thanks for the advice, i got a guy right now who wants to put me on a ten week cycle of test e and run it with deca for 6 weeks, then finish the last weeks with a cutting one like equipoise...as far as my diet i know how to eat, so im just tryin to figure out the gear

[Neevor]

Okay.. Seriously, I think this is a little mentioned item but worth bringing up.

Between 21 and 25 you're still growing right? You know that because about 4 guys just yelled it at you. You probably don't care and think "Im 6'3! Who cares if I loose out on an inch?!" Right? I mean, I'm 6'3 and I never wish I was 6'4 unless I'm around my buddies in the gym who are taller and sidle up to me and I actually have to look up. Weak. But otherwise, at 6'3" who cares right? So if you shut your HTPA down no big deal.

Okay, I'm gonna point something else out. Between 21 and 25 I went from 6'2 to 6'3 but my shlong also grew an extra inch. Now maybe the height doesnt matter to you but unless you already got a 10" piece of man-chicken and that doesnt matter either then maybe you want to keep your HTPA goin for as long as it can?

You're call buddy. I think if more people knew about that little side effect they'd reconsider though lol

[Princes_Gate]

bunch of parrots on this site. most of whom are hypocritical parrots, most of us started at 21 or younger....jesus.

go for it mate, good luck with the career...dont get caught juicing

[Bonaparte]

Most places will tell you that 21 is fine.
This board is rather conservative about it.

If you have a good reason for doing it and accept the risks, go for it. I would use test prop for maybe 8-10 weeks (it is only detectable for 2 weeks).

[Bonaparte]

Okay.. Seriously, I think this is a little mentioned item but worth bringing up.

Between 21 and 25 you're still growing right? You know that because about 4 guys just yelled it at you. You probably don't care and think "Im 6'3! Who cares if I loose out on an inch?!" Right? I mean, I'm 6'3 and I never wish I was 6'4 unless I'm around my buddies in the gym who are taller and sidle up to me and I actually have to look up. Weak. But otherwise, at 6'3" who cares right? So if you shut your HTPA down no big deal.

You're call buddy. I think if more people knew about that little side effect they'd reconsider though lol

The concern with AAS too young is more about hypogonadism than height. If you're normal sized or above, who cares?

[Neevor]

Well, I'm not gonna get into an indepth argument here.

I agree your Hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis is definately most messed up by steroids.

But, your hypothalimus and your pituitary are responsible for regulating and secreting HGH in adolecence and they can be affected by many things. Glucocorticoids and IGF cause a reduction in HGH but Roids help those issues. On the other hand if you run a poor PCT or no PCT then you can effectively shut off your HGH secretion for months or years. Also, excess levels of 19nor (Deca & Tren for example) have been linked to a decrease in HGH secretion so if you run those compounds you can shut down HGH or reduce it as well. Guys over 25 have no worries because our heavy HGH releasing days are over but younger than that and you might be missing out.

Its just my two cents but to me I'd rather not risk messing a good thing up.

[Neevor]

The concern with AAS too young is more about hypogonadism than height. If you're normal sized or above, who cares?

The whole point of my first post was the third paragraph which you cut in quoting me.

[Neevor]

you're too young for steroids. Learn to diet and to train.

BTW, FerociousB, dude, this is really annoying. This kind of behavior is makin it hard not to flame you're scrawny butt.

Shit...

[Neevor]

This coming from someone who is 18 years old hanging around a steroid forum....no problem with your age, but for YOU to be giving advise in big letters like that like you own the ****ing place? come on, you earn your status around here, dont just assume because hes newer than you that you are a ****ing vet

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[Hard.On]

Ballerson,
your stats are great.
Keep dieting and training the way you are.

Steroids would work for you now, only thing is that there are risks involved.

You would be more suited to take AAS then most of the people parroting you advice. Your stats are even better then mine.

My honest opinion: If you could hold off for at least 2 years it could be alot more benefical for you in the long run.

If you have a chance of going pro, scholarships etc. and you know you wont get caught.

Do a 12 Week cycle of test enth with a proper pct. I know you want to stack a ton of stuff and get massive. Just keep in mind that steroids are a marathon not a sprint. If you want, you can add Dbol to the first 4 weeks of your cycle. You should respond extremly well to this cycle.



and Ferocious Bubble:

We dont need kids telling people not to do AAS. We all apreciate your enthusiasm in wanting to help people, but why dont you sit back and read for the next 7 years and then you can start posting again.

[fattywarbucks]

I just reccomend joining the other nerds like me and researching as much as possible beforerushing to any descisions. Reseach pct, estro control, detection times, etc. You have a lot to lose if you do this wrong. I'm 6'3, 218, 13% body fat, similar to you, but I'm 28 years old and working towards a cycle for my own fulfilment. I have no coaches, league sanctions, or pro future. I don't have to worry about sprint times, or heavy collisions effect on bones joint healthPlease just learn as much as possible, and weight your risks. And remeber, you are an athlete so you have different goals from the average bodybuilding user, and your performance far outweighs the importance of your body image.

Best of luck

[AlphaMaleDawg]

honestly my physique looked mostly the same when I was 21 as when I was almost 24 when I did my first cycle. And I was extremely knowledgeable in nutrition too

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Ballerson,
your stats are great.
Keep dieting and training the way you are.

Steroids would work for you now, only thing is that there are risks involved.

You would be more suited to take AAS then most of the people parroting you advice. Your stats are even better then mine.

My honest opinion: If you could hold off for at least 2 years it could be alot more benefical for you in the long run.

If you have a chance of going pro, scholarships etc. and you know you wont get caught.

Do a 12 Week cycle of test enth with a proper pct. I know you want to stack a ton of stuff and get massive. Just keep in mind that steroids are a marathon not a sprint. If you want, you can add Dbol to the first 4 weeks of your cycle. You should respond extremly well to this cycle.



and Ferocious Bubble:

We dont need kids telling people not to do AAS. We all apreciate your enthusiasm in wanting to help people, but why dont you sit back and read for the next 7 years and then you can start posting again.

this seems to be the best route to go

[Neevor]

I just reccomend joining the other nerds like me and researching as much as possible beforerushing to any descisions. (deleted) I'm 6'3, 218, 13% body fat, similar to you, but I'm 28 years old.. (shortened for brevity)

Dude! Fatty! I think you must be my long lost twin. Same exact stats almost and a research nerd. Nice! Too bad you don't live in CO, we could get together and talk about how great it is to be taller and smarter than all the other meat heads.

[Black]

and Ferocious Bubble:

We dont need kids telling people not to do AAS. We all apreciate your enthusiasm in wanting to help people, but why dont you sit back and read for the next 7 years and then you can start posting again.

I tried to be nice to him not that long ago and tell him to just sit back and learn, but obviously he doesn't listen. I wish there was a way to ignore his posts, especially the big bold ones.

[crabmasta]

damn this is a interesting thread im around the same stats as you and just finished my last year of college ball, didnt go pro of course but would of loved to now im just a bone head rugby player lol, but like they said above, 10 week cycle of test e and proper pct thats what im doing and you will grow like a ****ing weed, im not anything close to an expert but have been putting alot of time into reading on this site. read around on here and the knowledge will be abundant

[Bloodsaw]

Anybody on this sight knows that you should be 25 years old at least to cycle!

What does hat have to do with you and your caps? besides, if u plan on waiting til your 25 then go elsewhere for 6 years and come back at 24 years old, hopefully u will mature between now and then and we wont have to listen to your dumb shit

[taiboxa]

What does hat have to do with you and your caps? besides, if u plan on waiting til your 25 then go elsewhere for 6 years and come back at 24 years old, hopefully u will mature between now and then and we wont have to listen to your dumb shit

really.. i mean come on >:[ did you have to tell him to "come back"? i mean.. seriously... you coulda just left it at "Go Elsewhere" and im sure we all woulda been fine w/ that.. but no.. u had to throw "Come back" in there didnt you..

[NickyReps717]

This thread has plenty of fail going on.

Starting with the title.

[Neevor]

This thread has plenty of fail going on.

Starting with the title.

[ghettoboyd]

You need to reverse your thinking bro! Its the LACK of ass that makes you a beast! Go for a few weeks without it and you'll not only be picking up 300lb tackles, you'll be trying to nail every 300lb chick that walks by

haha ha....thats good stuff and very true....

[taiboxa]

First Time Trying ASS...
like finally got laid?

[ghettoboyd]

i remember the first time i tryed ass....that first "injection" was incredable....