Skipping PCT?

[BurryMeBig]

Ok, so I understand as my very post this is probably a TERRIBLE choice of topic, but atleast I won't be asking where to buy gear . Anyway, I've been on this forum for a little over a year just never registered, I'm no where near an expert on AAS or anything in the field but I do know most of the basics. Let the bashing begin!

Anyhow, the past four weeks I've been running PheraPhlex at a moderate to large dose alone along with liver supports I don't care to list. I love Phera, wish it where still legal, had great strength gains, decent size, didn't really bloat and even lost some BF. I know the proper PCT for Phera should be Tamox/Clomid but I'm not ready to stop. I wanna shed body fat before summer so with that being said I've recalculated my diet to about 1700 cal wish for my stats is a crazy calorie deficit, I'm gonna run alot more even though I hate cardio and want to sub in more gear. I know Phera is kind of hard on the liver and it can aromatase so of course you see where my worries come in. I'd love to hear the objections to a 6 week Test prop/Winni/Clen/T3 cycle, thanks in advance.

Stats
5'10
208
BF%- 19 and change

[CMB]

age?

And I would run a different compound imo if I was trying to loose fat.

[DaBullet]

How old are you bro??? And your only taking in 1700 calories that aint enought even if you are trying to lose weight you will lose alot of muscle as well..

[DaBullet]

Why would you skip pct bro?? So am I reading this correctly, you are not going to take pct cause you want to jump on another cycle??

[rc_p90]

Just cut while on your PCT. Or is that a no no?

[BurryMeBig]

Bullet, your absolutely correct. I'm not gonna take PCT cause I wanna murge this cycle, and I'm 20.

[DaBullet]

Your kind of young to be jumping on juice bro, and not only that your bf% is around 19% you said and when you have a high bf% you could end up with side effects like gyno. You would usually want to be around 15% or lower before jumping on anything...and phera is a ph right??

[BurryMeBig]

Yes and no, marketed as a PH, banned as a class 2. I ran test alone at a low does 8 months ago and I know I'm still young. I really wanna PCT correctly I mean I know I should and then take some time off, I just don't wanna stop. I never heard anyone say BF has anything to do with gyno side effects?

[DaBullet]

it could contribute, not that it causes it, no one knows how there body will react to aas. Some will agree and some wont but why chance it.

[BurryMeBig]

Regardless. Lets face it, AAS are illegal because of abusive behavior. I guess this would be abusive behavior =[ sorry guys, honestly all I'm looking for is someone to be able to seriously talk me out of this, into a different option, or just say go for it.

[BurryMeBig]

Regardless. Lets face it, AAS are illegal because of abusive behavior. I guess this would be abusive behavior =[ sorry guys, honestly all I'm looking for is someone to be able to seriously talk me out of this, into a different option, or just say go for it.


CMB what would you run? Var is to hepatoxic from what I've researched so hepatoxic it compares to those of oxymetholone, rough stufff, once again from what I've read.

[D7M]

I'm sorry but this is just silly.

You're 20 years old and 20% body fat.

You don't need any steroids, or even PHs.

There really aren't shortcuts here: head to the diet forum, and get that squared away.

Then start hitting that cardio hard.

Stay dedicated and you'd be surprised the progress you could make in a few months naturally.

[BurryMeBig]

Thats the kind of stuff I was looking for.

[D7M]

Thats the kind of stuff I was looking for.

glad to hear it, bro.

now go do your pct!

[BurryMeBig]

But considering I began using steriods when I was 19 and its a year later, I'm probably gonna continue you on regardless. What I care more about is your concern about age, or about body fat.

And by that I meant no disrespect nor disregard to your opinion.

[D7M]

Just because you previously made a mistake doesn't mean you have to keep repeating that mistake.

[BurryMeBig]

So it's age that concerns you more than BF? Lets say I were going to leave this and go ahead with what I stated in my first post, would skipping the SERM for Phera be a bigger objection than age or BF?

[D7M]

Actually all three concern me, and I don't have enough time to think about it and quantify which one concerns me "more".

But at 20 years old you're already using a PH, then want to jump right into an AAS cycle?

Not the best idea.

As far as the body fat, well, it seems to me that you just want the easy way out so that you can look good in the summer.

I'm telling you, my friend, it's not the answer you're looking for.

[BurryMeBig]

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't looking for the easiest way to maintain muscle, maybe define a little bit, and overall loose fat, I'm sure who works out publicly and knows other users have seen somone on a half crap diet, run little cardio and still loose 20 lbs in a month, now am I looking for 20 lbs? no but 10lbs of fat would be nice. I don't know what I'm going to do, regardless D7M thanks for the advice.