Prescribed testsoterone Cyp

[nwjt]

I went to the doctor, got prescribed some test. cyp. They injected with 300 mg/ml and I am to inject myself once per week with 200mg/ml for a year. I had low T so this will help fix me up.

The doc said they'll monitor my blood levels to ensure little side effects. They mentioned some stuff that can help with various side effects.

Questions:

Is this dose enough for me to get ripped or build more muscle mass easily (lifting of course). That is it enough to help me build mass, as well as recover faster so I can work out more?

Please tell me how to optimize my use of this so I can get and keep my results.

Also, is there something I can get OTC to help mitigate any side effects?

Stats:
Age: 32
Male
Avid lifter though gains are hard for me.

Thanks!

[darkcrayz]

i know 10 guys 40+ all on hrt with varying dosages from 100mg-300mg/week. most put on 10-15lbs over the first few months. it is, from my understanding, they are now able to stay anabolic instead of always catabolic because they had low test and their hormones were skewed. most leaned out some too, but that was based on diet more then just being on test.

the sides i am aware of, blood pressure, water retention, prostate, gyno. just google it and see if there are any herbs you can take to mitigate sides. the dr can also prescribe medications. i wouldnt take them unless you notice the sides acting up. its just a waste of money otherwise.

also, head over to the trt forum and see what those guys are up to.

the gains are hard for you because your body wasnt properly balanced for gains, with having trt and getting your test to normal levels you should see some gains. i wouldnt work out more, just harder and smarter. you still need to recover and grow out of the gym.

[Bonaparte]

You do realize that this TRT is a lifelong thing, right? It isn't just going to "fix you up".
You're done having kids, right?
If the answer to both questions was "yes", then have a blast! I wouldn't expect awesome results off that dose, but it will definitely help.
If you decide to use an AI, go with Exemestane.

[nwjt]

Done with kids = yes
Lifelong = Maybe. I may chose to just use it for a bit then stop after I get some decent results.

[Bossman]

Done with kids = yes
Lifelong = Maybe. I may chose to just use it for a bit then stop after I get some decent results.

It doesnt really work that way. You had low T to begin with. By taking Test injections, you're further shutting down your natural test production. The longer you do this, the more difficult it will become to ever recover and produce enough test to be in the normal range again.

[nwjt]

It doesnt really work that way. You had low T to begin with. By taking Test injections, you're further shutting down your natural test production. The longer you do this, the more difficult it will become to ever recover and produce enough test to be in the normal range again.

So either I live with low T or I use a steroid? Is it possible my T will continue to drop anyways (without using)?

Is there something I should take instead of Test Cyp? I always thought deca-durabolin was the way to go, but not sure if they prescribe that for Low T or not.

BTW they also put me on natural-throid (armor) because my thyroid is crap too.

Combined is this a good stuff for body building or are the dosages too low?

[Bonaparte]

You'll have the test levels of a healthy young man. You're not going to get freaky huge.
Deca is good for anabolism, but that's about it. It can't fulfill all the androgenic functions of test (nothing else can).
And yes, your test levels will slowly decline without TRT. This happens to everyone, especially if you are already in need of TRT.

[Vettester]

We've got a great HRT section on this site, which is where I do most of my camping. I'm 43 and on HRT as well.

My suggestion (besides visiting us at the HRT forum)
-Run BW after 6 weeks and see where you're at. Your doctor should be looking at all the testosterone values, estradiol, RBC, PSA, etc. (basically a full panel).
-Be aware that your estradiol (E2) could possibly rise due to the "T" converting to "E". You should know your numbers going in, then see where they're at in 6 weeks. Be prepared to have some Anastrozole or something similar on hand.
-It is also normal for the testicles to start shrinking when on TRT, which in my case also led to some soreness. Ask your doc about HCG. A little HCG goes along way my friend!
-Add some B12 to your injections ... Great stuff, read up on it. Plus, it's a good way to get all the "T" out of the syringe.

When they ran BW, did they check your LH/FSH. Curious with those numbers and if they've made a determination if you're 'Primary' or 'Secondary'.

Good luck

[anabolic1979]

stop after u get results? oh jezz thats a awful idea. U need to stay on it or not u cant go off and on. As soon as u stop u will lose alot of the muscle u put on and feel like crap. hrt is a life long thing. They wont give u deca for hrt it would be awful anyways and kill ur sex drive. Test cyp is great stuff and ur lucky they didnt stick u with a lower dose

[Ashop]

I went to the doctor, got prescribed some test. cyp. They injected with 300 mg/ml and I am to inject myself once per week with 200mg/ml for a year. I had low T so this will help fix me up.

The doc said they'll monitor my blood levels to ensure little side effects. They mentioned some stuff that can help with various side effects.

Questions:

Is this dose enough for me to get ripped or build more muscle mass easily (lifting of course). That is it enough to help me build mass, as well as recover faster so I can work out more?

Please tell me how to optimize my use of this so I can get and keep my results.

Also, is there something I can get OTC to help mitigate any side effects?

Stats:
Age: 32
Male
Avid lifter though gains are hard for me.

Thanks!

Most USA based doctors will not prescribe that high of a dosage for TRT.
Most times its around 100mg every 10-14 days.
I think you should use an AI or some other type of anti E.

[tazmaniac1]

how about my Doc 600mg test cyp every three weeks...I might ask for less since I am supplying myself 1ml of test and 1/2ml of deca twice to try and stay of the roller coaster he wont do it any other way..1.5mg armidex(sp) every inject.

[nwjt]

Here's some numbers I have:
Test levels:
Total: 294 (range 285-950)
Free: 68 (range 50-247)
% Free: 2.3
Sex binding globulin: 21 (10-24)

Thyroid:
Free T4: .9 (.6-1.5)
Free T3: 2.9 (2.5-3.9)
TSH: 2.51 (.5-5)

Estradiol TMS: 3.4 (range is 10-42)

I did not fing the test you referrred to vettman, is it called something else? I have about 6 pages of results here.

BTW, how do my numbers look, does it seem reasonable to have a prescription?

[THE_DOME]

I have a 315 test and im 27 and I cant get any hrt/trt. what the heck. im jelous if your in range why did your doc hook you up on trt

[nwjt]

I have a 315 test and im 27 and I cant get any hrt/trt. what the heck. im jelous if your in range why did your doc hook you up on trt

I have symptoms. For example, I had gained about 25 lbs. I then lost the 25 lbs by only eating 1600 cals. They had me eat 2000 cals per day for 1 week and I gained 7 lbs. I know its mostly water but that is a symptom. Depression, some minor ED. Also keep in min I am 5 years older so that could the difference. I'm genetically very scrawny.

Are you a natural body builder, you're huge! (or is that your pic?)

[Vettester]

Here's some numbers I have:
Test levels:
Total: 294 (range 285-950)
Free: 68 (range 50-247)
% Free: 2.3
Sex binding globulin: 21 (10-24)

Thyroid:
Free T4: .9 (.6-1.5)
Free T3: 2.9 (2.5-3.9)
TSH: 2.51 (.5-5)

Estradiol TMS: 3.4 (range is 10-42)

I did not fing the test you referrred to vettman, is it called something else? I have about 6 pages of results here.

BTW, how do my numbers look, does it seem reasonable to have a prescription?

OK, thanks for sending this. Your "T" levels are definitely in the low range. Your E2 looks like it's in the dumps. Are you experiencing joint point or other issues? Anyways, a little "T" might be the ticket! E2 seems to be just right when you're in that 25-to-low 30's range, just MHO.

On the other test ... No, it's pretty straight forward and called LH (luteinizing hormone). It's produced by the pituitary gland, and it's the hormone that stimulates the testicles to produce testosterone. If the LH is low, it won't stimulate, thus could a reason for low "T". This is what is deemed as secondary hypogonadism. Primary is when it's direct failure at the testicle level.

It's important that they check this. If it is low, then the protocol should be to run an MRI to rule out tumors and to play it safe. Secondary is very common (I am), so don't think you're getting some disease or have a major brain problem if the LH levels are low.

BTW, your numbers definitely look low, and being in the upper range 700-800 is soooo much better. The only quandary I have is that you're still young enough that maybe there could be hope for your natty. I just wonder what would take place if the doctor tried some sort of PCT program instead, would it work? Like everyone is saying, HRT is a long-term deal. If there's any hope, find out now, cause once you are going strong on HRT there's no looking back.

[Vettester]

I have a 315 test and im 27 and I cant get any hrt/trt. what the heck. im jelous if your in range why did your doc hook you up on trt

A lot of them just set the age policy to make sure they're covering their tails. In fact, most AA clinics that I've researched are usually at 35 before considering treatment.

I personally think there should be some concessions for this rule for various candidates, but I do understand that if they made it fair game for 21 and up everyone would be doing a cycle and going to the clinics when their test gets suppressed. However, I've seen guys as young as 19 claim they're on TRT who come rolling through the HRT forum.

[nwjt]

Ahh Luteinizing hormone: 2.1 (rande if 1.5-9.3)

I should scan my results in for those interested in all of them.

Edit: What is E2?

[nwjt]

What should I ask for PCT therapy as an alternative?

[Vettester]

Ahh Luteinizing hormone: 2.1 (rande if 1.5-9.3)

I should scan my results in for those interested in all of them.

Edit: What is E2?

And as suspected, you my friend have low LH. Again, I would discuss a possible MRI just to play it safe.

E2 = Estradiol

[nwjt]

And as suspected, you my friend have low LH. Again, I would discuss a possible MRI just to play it safe.

E2 = Estradiol

What type of doctor should I contact? What kind of MRI and where is it done (neck, head etc).

Also, my lymphocites are 36.3% of total WBC. The max range is 40 and I found it odd since all my other numbers are near the min. Is that concerning?

[Vettester]

What should I ask for PCT therapy as an alternative?

There might be some docs who would try some HCG or Clomid. However, I'll leave it at that and let some others who more versed in this department chime in. For me, I've been on HRT and that's more of my thing. There are plenty of guys here that can talk PCT til their blue in the face, so I'd rather you get more information from the experts in that department.

BTW, I saw your post in the HRT forum. I'm sure we'll do more chatting over there.

[Vettester]

What type of doctor should I contact? What kind of MRI and where is it done (neck, head etc).

Also, my lymphocites are 36.3% of total WBC. The max range is 40 and I found it odd since all my other numbers are near the min. Is that concerning?

MRI will run you through a big machine that makes a lot of clicks. They'll scan the pituitary region of the brain if that's the assignment.

Have you reviewed the lymphocites situation with your doc? Have you been sick recently, flu, etc.? Review this with your doctor and discuss family history. Should be fine.

[Vettester]

Ahh Luteinizing hormone: 2.1 (rande if 1.5-9.3)

I should scan my results in for those interested in all of them.

Edit: What is E2?

Am interested. RBC, PSA, IGF (if they ran it), others?

[darkcrayz]

I have a 315 test and im 27 and I cant get any hrt/trt. what the heck. im jelous if your in range why did your doc hook you up on trt

i have 360 free and im 26 and cant get hrt either.

[lovbyts]

i have 360 free and im 26 and cant get hrt either.

To the OP, good luck. You have some good advise from Vettman

To the above. Good for your doctor. 360 is not bad. No it's not 700 but few people are that high and your 360 might be the same as someone else who has 700. The numbers are not the same for all of us or how we will necisarily react to training/libido/muscle growth.

[nwjt]

To the OP, good luck. You have some good advise from Vettman

To the above. Good for your doctor. 360 is not bad. No it's not 700 but few people are that high and your 360 might be the same as someone else who has 700. The numbers are not the same for all of us or how we will necisarily react to training/libido/muscle growth.

Is that your real pic? What do you use?

[lovbyts]

Is that your real pic? What do you use?

It's not my real pic. Hopefully in another year I will be CLOSE. My pics are on my profile page and posted.

I mostly use Chicken, lean beef, lots of protein and vegetables. About 1.5+ grams of protein to lean body weight. I eat almost constantly when I am at work, 12 hrs shifts. Im always putting one type of food or another into my mouth ever few minutes even NOW. LOL

I'm on HRT because I am OLD and have borderline/low test levels.

I have also been in the gym consistantly 4-5 days a week for the last 2.5 years only missing 2 weeks once due to vacation (still worked out a couple days on break) and 1 week once, not more than 2x. So overall I have still averaged 4+ day a week for over 2 years.

Im in no hurry to get BIG. I will get there but I know it takes time and is 100% healthier in the long run to take it slow.