anavar taper(?) and PCT protocol

[upperhandy]

my cycle (in week 6)

gear:
1-4 25mg ED dbol
1-12 500mg EW test-e
9-14 50mg ED anavar
ancillaries:
1-14 1.25mg ED finasteride
1-14 0.25 mg EOD a-dex
3-14 500i.u. EW hCG
PCT:
nolva 20/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/50/50

question 1) should i taper the anavar as i head into pct?

question 2) is it overkill to run both clomid and nolva?

question 3) if answer to question 2 is yes, then which one, nolva or clomid? (i have read nolva at 20mg is a much better choice than clomid at 50mg, true?)

question 4) should i taper nolva/clomid towards end of PCT?


Thanks for the help!

[thenextcutler]

pct should look a bit more like 100/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20

[upperhandy]

pct should look a bit more like 100/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20

thanks for the reply
any input on the anavar question?

other input welcome

[thenextcutler]

anavar doesn't need to be tapered. It a mild drug especially at 50mg.

I'm not sure why you includes adex right from the get go? had gyno before?

[upperhandy]

no, but i'm glad i did... got some serious oily skin right now.
i heard from a member who was running same gear as me (same source) the dbol gave him some trouble (small lump under left nipple) and he was only running 15mg so i thought i'd err on the side of caution

[thenextcutler]

oily skin does not dictate gyno, but fair enough. most people hold off until symptoms start cuz estrogen is important for gains

[upperhandy]

bump for other opinions

[HawaiianPride.]

my cycle (in week 6)

gear:
1-4 25mg ED dbol
1-12 500mg EW test-e
9-14 50mg ED anavar
ancillaries:
1-14 1.25mg ED finasteride
1-14 0.25 mg EOD a-dex
3-14 500i.u. EW hCG
PCT:
nolva 20/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/50/50

question 1) should i taper the anavar as i head into pct? I would only use the tapering method if the dose you are currently using is causing ill side effects or not bringing in enough gains. Other then that, stay at the least amount you can that will bring gains and keep negative side effects to a minimum.

question 2) is it overkill to run both clomid and nolva? This will depend and vary from person to person. Will it be too much for you? Highly doubt it, especially at those given dosages and duration. I know guys that can recover from stacked cycles that contain highly suppressive compounds off of Nolva as a standalone. I myself, have to have a stacked PCT no matter what I run. I think your PCT looks fine. Get a hormone panel post PCT to tell if you've recovered well. This will determine if your PCT was enough. Don't forget blood work also.

question 3) if answer to question 2 is yes, then which one, nolva or clomid? (i have read nolva at 20mg is a much better choice than clomid at 50mg, true?)

question 4) should i taper nolva/clomid towards end of PCT? Tapering with PCT is common, but it's not always necessary with both SERMS. For example, I like to run:
Torem 120/100/60/60/30
Nolva 20/20/20/20/20

But the more common protocol you see all over the net is:
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
I've done both combination's and I hate the side effects of Clomid. So I prefer option 1.


Thanks for the help!

Stats would be nice before asking questions to let us know a little more about yourself.

[upperhandy]

Stats would be nice before asking questions to let us know a little more about yourself.

H.P.-

thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, i am more than happy to answer yours

age 33
weight 195(week1) 212(week5)
height 6'0"
bf% around 15%


training: martial arts 5 eves/week and lift 5 morn/week... weekends off

1st cycle in about 10years... and first cycle that i took some time to ask intelligent questions. tfg for boards like this one, they have been so helpful in assisting me in planning a safe and sound cycle unlike my last deca only cycle (10yr ago) with no PCT.

thanks for the advice everyone!