newbie question on blood results from cycle

[rmacgurn]

Hi I am new here, but not to AAS or HGH. I have used HGH since 1998 at 1.5iu to max of 3iu a day sometimes 5/2, sometimes 7/7 and somethings 2 months on one off, mostly due to cost. In late 80s and mid 90s i did a few cycles of Deca and Sustanon, After doing some research and discussions I decided to add some more things for better results. Only I developed some problems.

I am 57, live in Costa Rica last 7 years and weighed 190, 6'2" tall, when I started bf was 12.3% blood work showed my cholesterol at 255 total, 55 HDL, triglycerides at 70 and LDL at 160. Test was 450 total and 9 free. That has been close to those numbers for years. I wanted to add lean muscle and about 10 more lbs. last 4 years i do about 3x a week with weights but do not push to hard any more, but decided to go for it this time.

I increased my HGH dose to 3ius 7x a wk, started with Var at 30mgs daily and in week 2 of 10 weeks added equipose at 200mg/wk), also added nat testosterone cream at 100mg/ml one ml per day and arimidex .5mg 3x wk. Since my cholesterol has always been high by "modern Medicine standards" about 250/60 total, with triglycerides at 60-75, and HDL at 55, LDL 160-190. I decided to add almonds, coconut oil (cold pressed), and increase my COQ10 to 200mgs a day.

Then I added a new exercise program of fairly heavy weight lifting 3x a wk. I have been going to the gym for more then 20 years but in last 4 or so have really slacked off so I got a young trainer to push me hard. ON advice of a doc here I added testosterone cream at 100mg/ml ever day to push my testosterone up from 400 total/9 free to 1080 total and 24 free and took arimidex at .5mg 3x a week to keep estrogen in check Blood shows estradiol never went above 20).

Results were good I thought. At week 10 i was at 201lbs, and 9.3%bf. strength way up, but started having problems with my knees and elbows, knuckles of fingers and toes also started to hurt. I cut back from 3iu to 2ius HGH and dropped everything else except the test cream, arimidex, cholesterol stuff and retested my blood and for the first time ever my cholesterol was 340, triglycerides 85,HDL 54 and LDL 260. of course my doc says to stop everything and go on lipitor, but instead I am trying Niacin at high dose 4 times a day. will retest blood in 2 more weeks. I found a site on the web from a Karl Loren which if true is very interesting about the scam that cholesterol is and the drugs invented to lower it.

Anyone out there had issues with cholesterol or joint pain at these doses or from this combination? Remember I have been taking HGH for 12 years and never had this problem. or is this all due to the steroids, or my age? I am discouraged but don't want to give up. some on this site seem to think Var is able to raise LDL a lot like 50% not seen this for Eq. But i have other options when i get my LDL in check again.

FYI my BP varies from 111/57 to a high of 134/78 in last 2 weeks measuring throughout the day. Also my blood sugar fasting is about 85 still.

thanks for your thoughts or input

[rmacgurn]

bump anyone???

[rmacgurn]

ok am i posting this in wrong section? is it to much info? i have seen many answers to ridiculous questions someone must have a comment or two for my questions....

[lovbyts]

No it just takes a while for the right person to read it and respond. You might try to also post it in the IGF-1 LR3, HGH, and INSULIN QUESTIONS section. There is more talk about HGH in there.

[ScotchGuard]

I'm 50 and have high cholesterol at about 300 but the kicker is my triglyceride at 1200! Yeah, I have olive oil in my veins. I've had it my whole life and only had it diagnosed a couple of years ago. I have been fit my entire life with absolutely no health problems. My heart, liver, kidneys, etc have all been tested and comes out with flying colors. I tried diet to control the triglycerides but that only took it down by 10% or so. Remember, a "normal" person's triglycerides should be 120 or below. Your triglycerides are fine. Your cholesterol is a little high but nothing to freak out over. I've been on HGH for 2 years and have done 2 cycles. I haven't noticed a significant increase in my cholesterol over that time. The Test will thin out the collegen in your joints while HGH tends to increase moisture in the collegen. I don't think it was your HGH that caused your knee and joint pains. I think it was the balance of Test in your system. Will you PCT or are you on TRT?

[rmacgurn]

Well I am on TRT but this cream / gel stuff is giving me rashes or acne in the areas i have been using it. so thinking to go to inj test cyp or enan. Still taking the HGH at 2.5iu/7days. joints are fine now and cut back heavy lifting to just high vol stuff with 10-20 sec rests short reps.

So not sure if it was the Var or Var/Equip combo. but recent test has me now at 247 total again. i have been doing 2 grams of niacin a day, with some other sups for cholesterol. as for PCT i only did 2 weeks of HCG last week of AAS and one week after. cut arimidex to 2x .5mg and will drop that at 4 weeks and retest all blood parameters.

Still would like to add something to grow a bit and add some strength.

thanks

[ScotchGuard]

If you're on TRT then you don't need PCT. 500mg/wk of Test E + 3iu/ed of HGH + good diet is a great place to start if you want to build. I got acne with long esters so I tried short ester (Test Prop) and I didn't get acne. You might want to try Test Prop 150mg/eod + 3iu/ed of HGH + diet for 8 weeks and switch back to Test E for TRT.

[rmacgurn]

thanks Scotch

I have several vial of test Cyp, at 200mg but only one of test E at 250mg. what is your recommendation for using or mixing of these products. I got them from a pharmacy for a friend who could not come up with the money. assuming 2x a week inj, add arimidex or not? last check of estrodial was under 20. Since switching back to Saizen no issue with joints or numbness. coming off this 500/wk dose what PCT or just go back to the cream? i was thinking to try the Test Undec product we have now down here. They say one shot per 10-12 after front loading 2 or 3 first 30/60 days. Any thoughts? for TRT i like the idea of not going to the pharmarcy every few days for a shot.

thanks

[10nispro]

It sounds like you should also increase your water intake. Are trying to start trt or are trying to continue trt after a cycle? If you want to use either test e or c for trt, either will work. I'm still unsure exactly what u are wanting to do.

[ottomaddox]

Are you taking any fish oils? or have another source for your O m e g a fatty acids?

[rmacgurn]

It sounds like you should also increase your water intake. Are trying to start trt or are trying to continue trt after a cycle? If you want to use either test e or c for trt, either will work. I'm still unsure exactly what u are wanting to do.

Yes have been on TRT for about 6 months using cream at 100mg/ml, but want to step up my weight and size using a cycle, then revert to TRT again. i will stay on HGH always, but prefer to keep it to no more then 2.5 to 3ius/day/365. is that more clear?

[rmacgurn]

Are you taking any fish oils? or have another source for your O m e g a fatty acids?

yes have been taking a full reg of vitamins for years out of the US called Forward it has a fish oil O-3 cap with EPA, DHA, DPA and ETA 2 per day also i eat salmon and tuna 3 times a week lunch usually.